Show Notes
In this episode of the Antler Up Podcast, host Jeremy Dinsmore sits down with professional archer Rob Yahrmarkt from Michigan to dive into the mental and physical aspects that have shaped Rob's journey in competitive archery. With a wrestling background, Rob discusses how the mental toughness and discipline from his past fuel his performance on the range. He shares the importance of accepting failure in precision sports, crafting a strong training regimen, and staying consistent to gain a competitive edge. Listeners will hear Rob’s perspective on how indoor shooting hones skills for outdoor success, and why finding the right equipment and tinkering with setups are pivotal to any archer's growth.
Rob's passion for archery shines as he shares how his transition from wrestling to archery has been both challenging and rewarding. He emphasizes setting realistic goals, building confidence through practice, and learning when to stop for the day to prevent burnout. Rob also explores how factors like weather, mental strategies, and competing with top-tier talent can elevate an archer's skills. Whether you're an experienced bowhunter or new to the sport, this episode is packed with insights on the intersection of mental preparation, technique, and passion. Tune in to hear how Rob’s coaching experience and relentless drive to compete have made him a standout in the world of archery.
So, grab your gear, sit back, and join us on this episode as we Antler Up with Rob Yahrmarkt! Stay tuned, stay safe, and Antler Up!
Show Transcript
Antler Up Podcast (00:00.142)
Welcome back everybody to the antler up podcast. I'm joined on the other line by Rob, you are marked Rob. Welcome to the show. And I want to also say professional archer. We're going to dive into that and we're, we're into January, mid January. Uh, you, you got the Lancaster archery shoot is going to be capped in here in the next couple of weeks. I'm seeing local bigger clubs saying
Rob (01:14.131)
Yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (01:39.342)
Come do your Lancaster archery pre-shoot things here in Pennsylvania. You're coming from Michigan So Rob, I'm I'm super pumped to have you on the show to not only talk about hunting stuff But also a passion of mine and a lot of listeners is archery as well. So dude, I appreciate you taking the time out
Rob (01:45.523)
Yeah.
Rob (01:58.771)
Yeah, man, thanks for having me on. Love doing this stuff. So anytime I get an opportunity to talk about it for a while and share and just, yeah, have a good conversation. I'm all for it.
Antler Up Podcast (02:10.082)
Heck yeah, dude. So before we dive into all that good stuff, I got to ask, are you into football at all?
Rob (02:16.402)
Yeah, it's kind of a...
Yes, I definitely am. But it's really tough for me to get into it if it's not my team. I'm a huge University of Michigan fan. And then, you know, I've grown to become a Lions fan. I'll call it I'm a bandwagon guy. You know, it's been so miserable watching them for for years and stuff. So, you you just always rooted just come on, can we just have a change? Could this be our year and stuff? And then, you know, Dan Campbell comes in and almost off to the same start, you know, same old Lions as people say.
Antler Up Podcast (02:22.871)
Yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (02:26.414)
Okay.
Antler Up Podcast (02:34.19)
Yeah.
Rob (02:50.919)
say. you know, and to see it just a night and day difference. It's just it's energetic for Michigan, for the city of Detroit. I live just outside of Detroit. So, I mean, you're seeing I think the local one of the local PDs is wearing Detroit Lions caps instead of their PD, you know, hat and and restaurants and stuff. So, yeah, it's it's been exciting. It's good to finally be on like the winning side of it, right? Where things are things are looking up. So,
Antler Up Podcast (03:13.912)
Yeah.
No, that's awesome because I'm, I'm a phys ed teacher. I'm, I've been a diehard, Philadelphia Eagles fan here. I grew up in Northeast Pennsylvania and where I'm, where I kind of grew up, my dad was always an Eagles fan. he was a Phillies fan, but we went to a lot of New York Yankee games that when I was a kid and my grandfather was a big Yankees fan and I kind of gravitated towards that and everybody kind of bust my chops. like, how are you a New York Yankees fan and Philadelphia Eagles fan?
Rob (03:34.933)
Okay.
Antler Up Podcast (03:43.738)
I'll root for the Phillies other than if we're in the World Series against each other, but it is cool. And I'll tell you what, man, I have a ton of respect for Dan Campbell. think it's his, his, transition for what he's done to that organization. mean, obviously higher up people deserve a lot of credit in that situation as well, but him as him himself as a coach, he really needs to be studied in a sense of being able to put out a book for coaches. used to be a varsity baseball coach and
kind of my last year I fell back in love with doing it. I had a great group of kids in my first couple of years. Obviously I loved it as well, but there was a middle part that, I don't know, I kind of lost it a little bit. you know, he, you hear some of the, the stuff that he's done already and have said, it's like, man, I I'd suit up for him. I would go run through a wall and I think it's really neat. And like you said, just what it brings to that city and that fan base is really, really cool. mean, it's just, it, I,
They're gonna be tough to beat this year, that's for dang sure.
Rob (04:45.919)
Yep.
Yeah, I used to coach college wrestling. You know, I wrestled my entire life, athletics and stuff. And then I got into coaching myself. And like, I think the thing that you hear so much about him, it's like he's a player's coach, right? People just, and you just gather and gain so much respect and trust from being a former player. Like they just know you've earned it at one point, you you went through the trenches and stuff. So I think there's so much to be said for having a coach that's lived it. Right. And you just know like he's lived it, he's learned.
He knows what it takes, know, either from mistakes in the past or successes that he's had. So I think that's what why so many people and all those guys just they love playing for him, man. They run through a brick wall for him every week. We're so injured and banged up and they still still find a way. Yep. They still find a way. So, yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (05:31.598)
They win. Well, that's neat to hear that you did wrestling because I never wrestled. It's funny because I'm not very tall. only five, seven and just, I'm kind of broad shouldered. have that wrestling kind of build, but I never wrestled growing up. You know I mean? Like a lot of people are like, man, did you wrestle when you were younger? And I said, no, they're like, you look like, like you did and stuff. And I have a crap ton of respect for guys that do.
Rob (05:48.841)
Yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (06:00.018)
And, but when you look at that, you know, that's an individual sport. Obviously there's, you're a part of a team aspect as well, like going out there. But as far as, know, between when you step out on the mat, it's mono limano, and all the sports that I've always played, it was always a team sport, baseball, football, basketball, those types of things. How, how has that maybe like, can you, know, cause as a baseball coach,
I always loved when I had football players. always loved when I had basketball players, just because they're bringing other aspects and gaining skills. mean, obviously guys that played baseball a year around, like they work on their craft, but sometimes they weren't always the best players, right? Some of your best players are guys that were just gritty and go out there and do things and just really good overall athletes. How has that helped you even now is like what you're doing on the line or out on the 3d course as far as like training.
for something individually like wrestling to now obviously archery.
Rob (06:59.785)
I think the easiest way for me to put it is I...
I feel like I failed as a wrestler, you know, through college and stuff like that. had, you know, I went to college with my two best friends that I wrestled with since I was in middle school. Both of them were all Americans. Like I was the, I was in the shadows. I was the third wheel, you know, from our hometown and even locally I went to a small division three college. So, you know, I feel like I still have something to prove. And so that's almost been the most difficult part of this profession.
journey is that I feel like I have a chip on my shoulder and I have I have stuff to prove mostly probably to myself you know that I I can do this
But trying to turn pro as a new father and I live in the city, like I have the, what I feel is the biggest mountain to climb. Like I just don't have the situation, especially for unknown archery, to be able to go judge targets all the time and have a course set out and be able to practice when I want to and stuff. You know, I still work a 40, 50 hour week job in sales. I have a beautiful wife. I have two beautiful kids. And I live in a 1500 square foot condo currently.
It was just best for our family, a good starter place. so yeah, that's been maybe, man, I just, want this so bad. I want to be successful at it. But right now it's just been extremely tough to, at the end of the day, you got to take care of yourself. You control your own destiny. That's the great thing about wrestling, right? I didn't have to have a great team. I could control my own destiny. I could train myself. could eat.
Antler Up Podcast (08:38.478)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (08:46.119)
sleep right, and weight train, do all the stuff individually. You need good partners and stuff, but it's very much individual, it's export. So I don't wanna make excuses, but it's just a tall mountain to climb. So again, I feel like I have a chip on my shoulder. And I think it again, it stems from my past failures and my entire life wrestling. I had a lot of great success wrestling as well.
So I know what it's like to just, I think just the mental toughness that wrestling gives you, especially for so long, when you're down and things just aren't going well.
You just, I don't know, you can just kind of figure it out. You know, I don't get overly angry if I shoot a five, hell, I've missed targets, under judge them. Like, you know, I've never gotten to a point that I want to snap a stabilizer or just cuss and swear. I think you just, you're not happy about it. You're frustrated, but I don't lose my cool and, you know, know that, hey, that's done. That match is done. That arrow is done. I got to get onto the next one. So I think it's helped, you know, in numerous aspects. And that's why.
I still wanna like scratch the competitive itch now is that I can I just didn't accomplish what I wanted to and and Yeah, I think this was just another good outlet, you know to see what else I can do
Antler Up Podcast (10:07.494)
Yeah. Dude, that's, that's really cool to hear like the discipline aspect of that, just because, um, just to even maybe you could even give some light into individuals like myself. So last year, I mean, I grew up, I'm 37, I'll be 38 this June. grew up archery hunting my whole, you know, since I could, could hunt at 12 years, 12 years old here in the state of PA. Uh, they didn't have like that mentor, uh, program.
when I was growing, growing up until it was like 12 years old. That's when you could go and you know, if you could draw back the legal poundage, you can. And when I was 13, that's when I shot my first whitetail with the bow. I, ever since then I was hooked. I've been chasing that, that feeling ever since basically that high of that, that, that first moment. but this past year, I mean, I shot local 3d shoots with buddies and all that type of stuff, but never really shot for school or never like other than like,
who's buying lunch today type of ordeal never really sat down and put, you know, pen to paper of going, walking the course and all that type of stuff. And, since I've not been coaching last summer was, was basically around the end of the school year was year two for me. I was like, man, I need that competitive edge. Exactly what you just said, like fulfilling that, that thing that we have of, of former athletes in some fashion. there's just something that, you know, I feel like you miss no matter what sport you played.
Rob (11:05.63)
Yep.
Rob (11:31.509)
Mm-hmm.
Antler Up Podcast (11:33.006)
So I was like, you know what I do? I want to become a better archer. love this sport so much. have so much respect for individuals like yourself, uh, and, and, and beyond, and for people that want to get into it and that want to get better. So I was like, let's, let's push yourself, man. Let's, let's compete. And even on the smallest of small scales, it's, I'm not going to the national events or anything like that. It is just finally registering to go compete and put myself out there. Like you have to.
put a score on. and, I, I've competed in the men's 45 hundred new class in HSA, the ASA, and where I could obviously move my dial and my first event, I think I was up against like six or seven other people. I came in second and then, the next one I did, I finished fourth and I did another like kind of Northeastern thing here. I only competed in two. No, I competed in one of them.
I didn't do too well and that one was a different that that one was a fixed pin three pin and I haven't shot that stuff when since I was like 12 13 15 years old so I didn't do too well that day and that day specifically I couldn't wait to get off the course man because there was one where I had I don't know if I just kind of like what you said I under judged or something like even though I was able to range and pick something I don't know if I just used the wrong pin
And it hit, hit this target right in the leg. And I just, I just, I did one of those and, I was just talking to myself internally. Like, dude, you, you gotta come back from this, like pinwheel the next one, take your time. And luckily I did have the next, the next, next target was a, so they, they alternate every other target, which would be a Reinhardt. The next one would be a Delta McKenzie. So you, you'd go from your.
Rob (13:24.871)
Okay.
Antler Up Podcast (13:26.766)
You know, you could call upper two. It's just the center ring on a Reinhardt. And I knew that's what was coming up next. And luckily it was a target that I own. And I was like, okay, just visualize what it's like in the backyard. And luckily it broke and it broke true. But, I remember walking to that target at first. And I was like, dude, if you miss another, like miss a target or do something like this, man, it was just frustrating. And, so to hear how you could go from not getting too high, too low and stay disciplined because
that translates into deer woods. mean, there's been countless of times where I've, I've missed a deer where it's still early and I still have another crack at it. And I've come back to actually fill a tag after that, just because I'm able to, you know, use the, the, term of just flushing it. You know what I mean? Like you just have to flush it. And it's a lot easier said than done, but, when you get accustomed to, guess more failures than
Rob (13:58.933)
percent.
Rob (14:16.628)
Mm-hmm.
Antler Up Podcast (14:24.61)
then you learn to get pushed through that type of stuff.
Rob (14:27.946)
Yeah.
Um, I want to, you know, I followed Levi Morgan, you know, PA guy and well now PA, uh, you know, my entire like shooting, right? When I got into this, this was like my eighth year, I think shooting competitively. Um, you know, he was on his 10th, uh, world title or, know, ASA shooter of year 10th straight. So he was like the guy. I'm like, all right, well, if he's the guy, let's follow and let's watch him. And, and, um, he put somebody asked him, you know, how do you get past?
not shooting well and things and I remember this because the quote stuck with me. goes, you're something to the effect of when you're shooting a sport or something so precise, you have to be prepared to fail. I mean, it's just it's going to happen. It's inevitable. You know, he's one of the best in the world. He doesn't shoot a perfect score every time. He doesn't break a perfect shot every single time. So, you know, you have to just accept failure. A lot like baseball, right? You're a Hall of Famer if you can hit three out of ten.
Antler Up Podcast (15:23.662)
Right. Yep.
Rob (15:28.535)
You know, and so you have to accept failure and how quickly can you get past it. so I think that's one of the cool things about Unknown Archery is that there's just another layer to the strategy, another layer to the game.
Antler Up Podcast (15:28.536)
Yep. Yep.
Rob (15:47.931)
that you got to think about. just more to it. And so I think again, with there being more to it, you can get deeper into that next target, that next strategy, that next point of the tournament versus click, shoot it type of thing. So you just got something else to think about on top of that versus maybe continuing to dwell on the previous target or previous failure.
Antler Up Podcast (16:16.332)
Right. So how many years have you been shooting archery overall?
Rob (16:22.163)
So I didn't get started with a bow in my hand until I think I was a senior in high school. You my dad, grew up, my dad bow hunted and stuff as long as I can remember. And I think, you know, my first piece of, we'll call it archery equipment was a Nerf crossbow or a Nerf bow. And man, I begged to go to the range and stuff with him all the time. And, and when I was younger and he would take me every now and then.
But yeah, I, and then I think he, he's still bow hunting and stuff, but he kinda, you know, wasn't at the range as much as he maybe was when I was really young, growing up that I can remember and all this stuff. But yeah, so I, good buddy of mine, you know, I went bow hunting with him and just sat in his tree stand and stuff. And I'm like, this is, I love hunting, but I want to get, I want to quit waiting till November, middle of November until our rifle season. You know, I'm the same age as you. So a lot of the same rules and stuff. I didn't get to go on my first hunt until I was 14.
because I didn't have a bow at 12. yeah, but I didn't pick up a bow until yeah, I think I was 17, 18 years old. Got my first bow as a dartin and yeah, got right to it from there. So yeah, just bow hunted and figured it out kind of from there and had no clue about the competitive side of it until...
I think I was in my mid twenties. I just bow hunted as much as I could. I loved it. Bow hunted through college and everything. And, you know, that's when YouTube started becoming a thing and campaigns and some of that stuff, but still had no clue about the competitive side. And then I moved home. I lived out in North Dakota for a couple of years, moved home and then I was working for an archery shop. You know, I just loved the archery side of it. And a guy that I knew said, Hey, you know, you're living over here. They could use some help.
They'll teach you, you you want to work in a bow shop. Yeah, sure. And so, yeah, I got my start kind of getting into a bow shop there when I moved back. And these guys started talking about indoor archery and the 3D archery and stuff. like, you know, it's interesting. And then eventually somebody invited me to a local indoor 3D ASA. And so I got to shoot. I got to shoot with a guy that I still credit a ton.
Rob (18:41.925)
He usually texts me after I give him a on a couple of podcasts, but his name is Chad Bennett, I got to shoot with him. He shot for Matthews at the time, was in Known Pro, and my bow was too fast to shoot K-40. So I had to shoot the K-50 class or whatever at the time. so I got to shoot with him that day and he kind of showed me the ropes and was just a great mentor for a long time and still get to talk to him quite a bit. He's out of target archery now and just goes and kills big deer and other animals in the country. But yeah, so I got the itch.
then and there. It's just something about it. was just like, okay, like this is cool, but I didn't do well. So how do we, how do we do better? You know, how do we figure that out? And, yeah, eventually bought my first target bow, bought my first Matthews target bow from him and just started shooting locals and did all that stuff. And yeah, I think probably.
Antler Up Podcast (19:12.61)
That's so cool.
Antler Up Podcast (19:19.895)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (19:32.959)
Two, three years into the competitive side, was like, all right, this is something I'm hooked on. There's great people, lots of stuff to do locally. know, after hunting season, I could shoot all winter in the indoor side and then get into spring and summer with the 3D stuff. So yeah, just haven't stopped.
Antler Up Podcast (19:52.504)
Do you love the indoor stuff or is it a love hate situation?
Rob (19:56.499)
Yeah, it's a of hate. It's like, you know, for the longest time I never shot paper, you know, I just want to shoot foam and all that stuff. Papers, you know, okay, sure. I'll sight in at 20 yards. This is easy, you know, stuff. but, but yeah, I got to a point that I started taking this really serious and people were telling me like, listen, you got to become a better indoor shooter that will help you as a 3d shooter. And so, yeah, probably four or five years ago, I kind of bit the bullet and started shooting that.
Antler Up Podcast (20:00.674)
Yeah.
Rob (20:26.423)
some leagues with the five spot stuff and it took me forever to shoot a 300 and a five spot and now I'm sitting here going how man how did that how did that take you forever to do I mean it's it's you know you get to a point that the precision and stuff and the expectation just starts to be so precise you know no no misses and
Antler Up Podcast (20:34.008)
Yeah. Yeah.
Rob (20:47.581)
Yeah, you got to start somewhere. So I started out with five spot and then I despised the Vegas face. Well, now you can pay me enough money to go shoot a five spot face. I will never go to indoor nationals unless somebody's paying me to go. I do not have the attention span to sit there and fire 60 arrows over and over and over again. And, you know, even the 3D side or 3D, the indoor side, you know, firing.
20 yards, same thing over and over and over again. It does wear on me. probably, I swear I have undiagnosed ADD. So again, like to do the same thing over and over and over again, I lose focus and stuff after a while, but I have grown to love it. I guess answer your question. I mean, it's such a challenge. You know, I'm still chasing a 30 X game, you know, but I get to see progression. I get to see, you know, how good can I make myself? And it's such a good test, you know, before we go out on a three,
Antler Up Podcast (21:20.279)
Yeah.
Rob (21:41.847)
how good can we get at 20 yards with our setup and with our shot and everything like that. So I've really kind of...
Antler Up Podcast (21:48.77)
You like, cause that's like, cause that's the one aspect I haven't really, there's a local, actually he shoots for elite as well as, is, Nate Sellers, average Jack Hartree and, Yep. Nate's, Nate, Nate's been a phenomenal shot in the Hunter class. And, this year, or I think this past summer he did move to open. this is kind of like full year moving to that open class and challenging himself doing that. And he's, he had, obviously this is, think year.
Rob (21:59.913)
Yeah, have a date.
Antler Up Podcast (22:18.37)
You're three of the shop for him. And this year I signed my, my name up to, do the indoor league. I've yet to bring my exalt 35 down to go shoot my, my first round down there. and, obviously with family stuff and everything like that, I'm, I'm, I still plan to do it. I still plan to cram 10, 10 sessions in. have no, I have no expectations to be quite honest with you with it. I'm kind of in that. I was fired up at first just because I want to get.
become one with this exalt 35 just for outdoor, but like you, like how you're saying, I just, there's something about shooting foam and, and doing that, like I got that bug big time. And, uh, I just, when you say attention span, man, so I teach archery and phys ed class and we just do a big face. And sometimes we, I'm able to put a five spot out there just because we have some extra lane around and we're just using the Genesis bows. And there's one that's pretty good as far as like
I don't want to say dialed in, I kind of know where, if I'm using my instinctive, method of shooting, like where the arrow is going to go and same thing, man. I'll be like, okay, I'm doing, got five perfect next one is four only. And it's just like, it's so frustrating. I'm like, I'm not using true equipment of what I would be using anyway, but yeah, I don't know. I, it just doesn't, doesn't fire me up as much as if you were to say, Hey man, I got an indoor three D.
league like now knowing what I know now I'm like I'd be all over it you know type of ordeal
Rob (23:50.663)
It's a necessary evil, think. Like I said, I think if you want to...
grow in archery, you've got to get good in indoor. Again, the precision to put up good scores and compete if you are putting yourself. And then I think too, you know, 3D, you know, we're shooting in groups of three or four on the national circuit. You got a couple of people on your stake. It's a small, we'll call it intimate atmosphere, even though you're out in the middle of the woods, right? You'll just get a couple of guys. But you go to some of these shoots, especially nationally, where you're on a line at Lancaster with 150
Antler Up Podcast (23:56.682)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Rob (24:24.471)
200 people down Spooky Nook there or just even the local stuff that I shot Saturday night. mean, you're sharing a line with, I think we 20 some other people at a time. Not that they're looking at your target, but you're in close quarters. You got other people watching. It just amplifies some of the pressure and just some of that.
Rob (24:50.461)
Yeah, just the atmosphere just amplifies things. And so I think, again, it's a necessary evil. I don't love it. I want to be outside. rather shoot at foam all the time. But I think just the amount of repetition that you get from leagues and shooting those games and stuff like that, you can really start to find some measurables and tweaking your setups and your shot yourself and see where your scores go and start to do that.
Antler Up Podcast (24:52.974)
Mm-hmm.
Antler Up Podcast (25:13.678)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (25:20.515)
Because I truly believe if you can't get it at 20, how the heck are you supposed to get it at 50? You know, there's so much more room for error. Yeah, so It's a really good place and again, it's a great place to start, know the year I usually start my my year and prepping I usually get bows and stuff by mid-october November beginning of December or something like that So usually about after Thanksgiving. I'm starting to kind of get the itch I'm hoping I have deer in the freezer and stuff and and I can
just kind of take the rest of the late season easy. I don't got to really grind it out to try to fill the freezer. So yeah, usually I'm starting to do my training and setups and start thinking about January and the of season. So yeah, but yeah, again, it's all.
Antler Up Podcast (26:03.662)
So what you're saying is I got to my ass in gear is what you're saying.
Rob (26:09.781)
That's the wonderful thing, right? There's so many disciplines about archery. can be so many things to so many different people. Um, but yeah, if you want to put it on the line and get a good, I equate this. So I ran cross country in high school to get ready for wrestling season. This is cross country to get ready for, for wrestling season. So, you know, indoor, it gets you ready for outdoor. You just get so many repetitions and can just get your muscle memory correct. And you just, you just get comfortable for the amount of arrows that you're shooting in, in a couple of months. So it's nice.
Antler Up Podcast (26:22.572)
Yep.
Yeah. Yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (26:39.702)
Yeah. what, what's your like training regimen kind of looking like? I mean, you could even go from talking indoor to if anything changes for outdoor 3d, like what, does your training kind of look like?
Rob (26:51.025)
Yeah. So like I'd mentioned, I, because of my family dynamic and stuff, you know, I get in, at about 6 AM to our local club. It's a 24 hour club. So I could go anytime I want, but, I usually wake up at five, get in at six, a couple of days a week. this year I'm, taking some emphasis off indoor. you know, I'm not shooting any large national indoor tournaments. I'm putting all my focus on the ASA. and so that's somewhat taken some pressure off early in the year that, I don't
have a Lancaster to train for per se. Um, so I used to, for the last couple of years, I was in five days a week at 6 AM and shooting, you know, 50 to 60 arrows. Uh, usually shooting a game of Vegas face every morning with some warmup and such or any tweaks. And, um, so yeah, but I'll, I'll usually shoot because of the weather too. You're probably experiencing it a bit too. Um, you know, from again, Thanksgiving till end of February, end of March, I'm stuck indoors for the most part. You know, we
do get those odd Michigan days where it'll be 60 in February. I'll get outside if I can type of thing. But yeah, usually just, you know, trying to get as many arrows as I can, just really tweak in setups and just trying to find where I'm at. you know, I've switched bows.
For the last four straight years, I think, or three straight years at least. you know, the, I was my first year, the pro with Matthews, the title wasn't out yet. So shooting a phase four and a TRX 36. And I shot the TRX series for a couple of years and then enjoyed it and liked it. So, but I shot a 38, I shot a 36, I was kind of bouncing around and then the title came out. So I shot the titles for a couple or for a year. And then, you know, that relationship changed and now I'm.
shooting an Elite so I've got an Exhaust 35 in both of my bows. Did shoot the verdict for a little while.
Rob (28:49.801)
But just I fell in love. bought a verdict at the end of last year, end of last summer and within a week just felt great with it. And I went and won a tournament locally, one of the big tournaments I was shooting at end of the year. I shot really well on the known side. So I knew the bow was doing everything right. I didn't have to worry about judging, nothing like that. so yeah, but yeah, kind of getting back around it as soon as the weather breaks.
Antler Up Podcast (28:58.99)
Mm-hmm.
Antler Up Podcast (29:07.949)
Right.
Rob (29:17.045)
try to get outside as much as I can. So our club, our club is a big club around here. It's great archery people, but it's a very, very busy club. We have league nights seven days a week. So six out of seven days, there's a league. So I can't typically get in in the evenings again. So I go in the mornings and then even when we get outside there's in the early spring and stuff, they don't really have leagues, but I want to say beginning of April, they start field and Hunter and, and
Antler Up Podcast (29:32.387)
Wow.
Rob (29:47.091)
Feta leagues out on the Feta course and stuff like that. So But yeah, usually for about two months I can get my targets out They allow me to put some targets out in the woods and that way I can start getting a jump on judging and seeing targets So yeah as soon as soon as the weather allows I try to get outside as much as I can and then Yeah, I'm trying to trying to get out multiple days a week again. I got a flexible job so You know if I if I can I try to maybe get out a little bit earlier
Antler Up Podcast (30:12.152)
Yeah.
Rob (30:16.854)
early of work and then I'll finish up sales stuff at night when I'm inside. So yeah, just try to get outside as quick as possible. So try to compete with all the Southerners, all the Southern guys. I've been talking a little bit of crap to my buddy Chris and Cody and some of these guys that live down in Arkansas, they just got piled on with snow. They're not ready for this. Exactly, right? I'm like, good, this set you guys back a few weeks.
Antler Up Podcast (30:27.246)
What? Yeah, right.
Antler Up Podcast (30:38.392)
Yeah. You're like, welcome to my world.
Antler Up Podcast (30:44.291)
Yep.
Rob (30:46.956)
So now you know what it feels like to be stuck indoors for a while and just shoot paper. yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (30:52.428)
Yeah. And that's the, that's the hard, that's the hard part for, like for me last year was like getting into it, like knowing I wanted to do this. missed the first, Pennsylvania did a, cash for clash kind of event where it was, think three or four, I think three events. And I missed in order to get the grand prize, all that type of stuff in the final run of money, you had to shoot all three.
And I missed the first one. wasn't able to do it. Maybe they have four. But I ended up doing two of them. And like I told you how I how I did in those two. And but I was like, dang, April's early. Like, I just remember even just because it was an early one and we had a pile of snow and my verdict wasn't in yet at that point in time. So I was kind of like behind April. I think I had like a week. was like, oh, man, I'm not going to be able to go dial in now to 60 to
put it, put a site tape on this thing. And so I'm not rushing it to start it off. I'll take, I'll shoot two and you know, just see how I do with it. But like you said, the weather could play a, play a role in getting out there and doing that. So what do you do for, cause I've had obviously just times where I'd just go shoot. I'm at my in-laws. I could stretch it out a little bit and like, what's your recommendation on the Derby times where I'd start out really good. And then, you know, maybe getting tired and
you know, maybe not doing so well or you start off, you're not doing that great. Do you just be like, I'm closing it up for today. I'm going to come back either later to this evening, maybe come back tomorrow. Like what's, what's that situation look like when you just feel off basically.
Rob (32:35.933)
Yeah,
Antler Up Podcast (32:37.838)
Do you push through it?
Rob (32:39.637)
Yeah, I think some of it depends on the day and I think maybe some of it depends on like what the issue is. Like why am I feeling off? it me? Did I have a bad night of sleep? Did I have too much caffeine today and I'm all over the place? You know, am I setting myself up for, we'll call it errors or failure because I'm shooting in 20 mile an hour crosswind, you know, but today is the only day I can shoot and some of that stuff. I guess I'll say it just depends on maybe what the issue is, right?
Antler Up Podcast (32:45.486)
Mm-hmm.
Antler Up Podcast (33:01.132)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (33:09.791)
Like if I just know like it's just me, I usually tend to just call it a day, you know? Or let's change the scenario or the setting, right? If I'm trying to pound at 50, let's just go to 25. Let's go to an area that I can build confidence in and if it's still not going well at a short distance, let's just call it a day, you know? Because I think if you keep doing it, you're just going to beat yourself up mentally.
You might develop a bit of a bad habit. You know, I think it could just get worse if you just try to push through it sometimes. But if you just feel like, Hey, this is a setup issue. I need to, I need to run back into the club. need to run home, run to a local shop or something, see if I can maybe get some adjustments made and get back out here to try to change this. And that's you know, wonderful thing that I've lived at firsthand now. You know, it's not a knock per se on
Matthews, the only thing you can really do is change mods on that to get different holding weight, different draw length, different poundage. You know, in elite, that's one of the things I've loved so much already. I can be in the middle of a round and change my draw length by a quarter of an inch. I can move my draw stops. I did it in the middle of a match, a head to head match on Saturday night. I got in between ends. I moved my draw stops off to 70%. I needed a little bit more holding weight. I knew I was close to the ends anyway, but I loosened up
that Allen I pushed my draw stops out it shortened my draw length up just a touch and I felt a much better you know shot the rest of the night so so that ability to just do that stuff on the fly has been a huge help for me already so so yeah but some of it yeah you just got to diagnose like why are we struggling today and you know again if it's a setup issue don't be afraid to change it I'm a huge huge advocate in tinkering and
Antler Up Podcast (34:59.47)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (35:08.918)
and changing it until it's right.
Antler Up Podcast (35:11.032)
Yeah. Yeah.
Rob (35:11.613)
changing it until it because if it's wrong, what's the point? I don't want to say wrong as in wrong way to do it. But if it's wrong for you and it just doesn't feel right, why do we why do we keep shooting it? If we're not getting the results we want, why do we want to keep setting ourselves up for failure? Make a change. So, yeah, whether that be draw length, holding weights, arrows, you know, knocking point, just whatever it might be when it starts getting into tuning. Don't be afraid to make that change because you're you're one change away from like, holy crap, this is a whole new bow.
Antler Up Podcast (35:24.78)
Right. Yeah.
Rob (35:41.639)
I'm shooting great and now your confidence is skyrocketing and if you're confident I think that's 75-80 % of the battle that we shoot in archery is you you can you can have a bad tune or you know your shot might not be great but man if you're confident that day and things are rolling you can you can turn out a much better scorecard than you normally do so
Antler Up Podcast (35:51.628)
Yeah, no doubt. No doubt.
Antler Up Podcast (36:07.148)
Yep. Yeah, no doubt. mean, it's that day when I finished second. I mean, I was nervous as shit. That was that first that first target. And I think I hit like an eight. And that was the what I shoot that day. I think I shot like 12 down. But that a lot, like I said, it was a tough course and I did not shoot a five. Like my goal that day was like, do not shoot a five.
Rob (36:33.769)
Yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (36:34.282)
And then it was that happened. And I finished, like I said, I finished second and, they, the second one was kind of the same goal again, don't shoot a five. And I used the wrong pin and drilled, drilled the, for target one. I mean, dude, I was so confident. I stepped up to the line and I was like, yep, I'm dialed. put it to what it was and I drew back. was calm, cool, collected, and I had a great break and it went funk like right. belly.
Of the dough target. And I was like, what just happened? Like, what did I do? Did I hit something? And I was like, dang. And of course I was like number one, cause I shot, whatever I forget where I shot, but I know as the first person or second person to go on the next target. And it was a tough course. It was like all up. was all either going uphill or downhill, like side slope and a little bit. I hate, I hate shooting those. But anyway, I was, as I'm, I look, was like, dang.
I was using the CBE, Trek site and I had the multi-pin on and I put the bottom, the middle pin basically on, on the number. And I obviously use my top pin and that's what ended up screwing me. So I was like, of course the next target was like the bore black target bomb. It was like 40, 47 yards. And I was like, I was like, I'm calling up or just like, was just being an idiot, just getting aggressive. And, I think I hit an eight.
I was like, all right, way to go, man. Like you're already down. just, and that was the, ended up, I forget what I shot that day, but that was the only five. I shot a lot of tens that day, a couple of 12s. but all in all, like the way I recovered from that, like those first two targets was, I was actually like pretty proud of myself, but, yeah, dude, it's, it's crazy. And it's so addicting, to what that side of things could, could do as far as like that archery side. Like you said earlier,
It's taken in my mind is how you said there's that extra layer to that unknown aspect of what you do. mean, man, like just that whole competition side of archery just adds that layer. Like obviously people become obsessed with hunting and you know, you're, you're doing, you're listening to podcasts and you're listening to reading magazines and you're watching YouTube videos of how guys set up on scrapes, how guys find bedding and do this and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like that's, still interesting to me, but
Antler Up Podcast (39:00.63)
This is honestly, man, this is like what I've been really more so interested in the last like year and a half. Like I just love watching guys like yourself, seeing what you're doing and just kind of like, how could I improve and maybe one day, five years from now, like not be a pro, but like, cause I, I don't think I have the skillset for, but like, how could I go test myself and maybe go down to Foley? You know I mean? Like just something like along that long, that was like,
Rob (39:27.156)
Yeah.
Well, even how I got here now, like...
I've worked my ass off doing this. I've shot a lot of arrows. I've grinded to get where I'm at now. I'm blessed to be where I'm at now. frankly am. Again, I didn't win out a semi-pro. I podiumed. I proved to myself that I could shoot this well. But my biggest thing, even turning professional, is like, listen, I'm going to chase this as hard as I possibly can.
Antler Up Podcast (39:51.192)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (40:03.671)
and I'm gonna give, you know, I'm gonna give it my all but let's just go do it. Like just jump in and it's kind of like what you did like you just go shoot, start shooting some competition because you don't know what you don't know, you know, and maybe you're natural at it. Maybe you, if you never try, right, you never know and so that's kind of where I've set myself up now. It's like...
I don't think I finished honestly in the top half of our class. You know, we've got 40, 50 shooters most weekends. I probably averaged a 30-ish place finish. So I'm not the worst, you know? I'm consistent. But I also...
beat some guys that probably had a bad weekend, you know, again, it's just, you don't know what you don't know. And I've told myself, I'm going to go try to shoot the best guys in the world and pick this game up as best I can. And again, it probably comes back from wrestling. You got it. You didn't get any better at wrestling by being the best wrestler in your room. You just go beat everybody else. Like, and now you think that that's what I don't, you probably see it in PE and stuff, like where our world is at and our youth and stuff. I don't think parents
push their kids very hard. allow them to just sit and collect every trophy possible and they just don't push them. And you know, I hope I find a balance, you know, so I don't like over push my kids and stuff, no matter what they do. But I want them to, yeah, just push themselves, go see what you can do. And that's what I'm trying to do now is, is, you know, I believe I'm, good enough to be here. I'm gonna find success at some point. Again, I think if I can change my living situation,
Antler Up Podcast (41:33.058)
Yeah.
Rob (41:47.015)
where I can step out the back porch when I'm grilling hot dogs in the summer and fire 20 arrows, come back in and help my family and my wife. if I can do that, I think I might find success a little quicker, being able to do that stuff. But at the end of the day, yeah, just go push yourself, go try. And so yeah, that's kind of, again, how I've gotten here. I just decided I'm gonna go shoot with the best guys in the world.
to myself of podium and semi-pro. I can do this and you know I'm gonna go learn and again that's what I've told myself it's gonna be a learning process. I'm gonna get my ass kicked again. It is so so close out there again you're you're to shoot even shoot 200 and around is middle of the pack you know or below middle of the pack you know and just so you've got to go hit rings and you've got to not make mistakes in our class.
Antler Up Podcast (42:24.76)
Heck yeah, man.
Rob (42:46.841)
And you know, I'm more or less I know because I practice with some of the best Again, one of my best friends is Chris Hacker out of Arkansas If I truly believe if Levi Morgan and Dan McCarthy weren't shooting Chris would be the Dan or Levi again He's on the podium in shootoffs all the time with those guys the last you know, 15 years as a professional and You know, we've become such great friends and get competitive when we see each other at these tournaments
and I can hang with him on a practice range. I've beaten him in a practice range. Doesn't like to hear it because I let him know it. But yeah, but I know, you know, I can compete with the best and it's just getting over some of the humps and things of doing it when it matters because practice range doesn't matter at home doesn't matter locally doesn't matter. Got to go do it when it matters when scorecards are getting turned in. And but yeah, ultimately, I know I can do this. It's just
Antler Up Podcast (43:20.91)
Yeah.
You
Rob (43:47.297)
Just finding that breakthrough and getting back to confidence. Finding the confidence that, I do belong here and these numbers are good.
Antler Up Podcast (43:53.27)
Yeah. And that's, and that's what I was going to say to you is like, you need that confidence. Like you can't go into that, that, you know, first shoot and be like, man, I, hope I do okay today. You know I mean? Like you need to be like, I'm going to give it everything I got kind like what you probably would do before you go out and step on the map. Right? Like you need to have that confidence in your ability. It's the same thing too, like with archery and for hunting.
I mean, there, there was a time where as a kid and growing up, like I just see deer killed deer type of ordeal. And then it's like, you do this other aspect of things and you're overthinking it. And then you, you develop that buck fever and it's just like you shoot and you're like, what, just happened? Like what, you know, my dad's like, what happened? I'm like, I don't know. You know I mean? And, you know, I've told the story countless of times, like, I mean, from 2016 up until 2022, I could have filled a buck tag every single year. And,
Rob (44:40.585)
Yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (44:51.032)
but I've made mistakes and you know, there comes a time where it's like, I've, I've made a promise to myself, I'm going to do everything in my power to train and practice and not have that happen. And these last couple of years, I've never felt more confident with a bow in my hand with me drawn back on an animal. and you know, you do have to have that confidence. Like now I just, mean,
Rob (45:09.066)
Yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (45:15.618)
two years ago with my archery buck in Pennsylvania. And I talked about it. I mean, he wasn't the biggest deer and I don't care about that, but it was when he came up, I already shot a doe like five minutes prior. I never doubled up. And I had the thought process of like, now I could go to Ohio for a full week if I kill this deer. And I just remember being like, yep, you're dead. And I drew back. Like I had that confidence of, of, of that mentality. Like I knew nothing was going to go wrong. I didn't have to worry about any limbs or anything like that of
tree limbs hitting or anything like that. just knew that I was going to just put a perfect shot on that deer and I did. Um, you know what I mean? So it's like that confidence in the woods. You need to have that obviously when you step out and go after it and then you have to be able to flush it really quick. And, uh, I loved hearing that perspective from, from you on that.
Rob (46:03.923)
Yeah, that's probably the biggest thing that I can tell people if they're like on the fence or, I'm a bow hunter. I'm a bow hunter. Like competition side of things has made, I don't want to say bow hunting easy, but again, I shoot so many arrows from January 1st to October 1st and then through season and stuff that when you get into the woods, just, it just is second nature.
Antler Up Podcast (46:18.754)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (46:33.799)
I haven't the last deer I missed was that one. I shot him. This is Michigan buck. That's 150 inch 10 point.
I shot him, I think that was 2000. Yeah, 2017. I had him at 48 yards and I was again following Cam Haynes shooting 70, 80, 100 yards holding, you know, paper plate groups and stuff. And, you know, his mentality is I practice at those distances. So when 40, 50 yards shots come up, they're slam dunks. And I still don't think that shot in a white tail was a slam dunk ever.
Antler Up Podcast (47:13.112)
Yeah.
Rob (47:13.591)
But yeah, I think that literally might be the last year that I missed I missed him at 48 yards and like the third day of season and then I got a shot at him at 30 yards a week later and double lunged him and found him so but But yeah, it just becomes second nature again. I I shoot this is I get way more nervous to try to hit a Nickel or a dime at 20 yards, know with people around me and stuff like that I've never shaken so much
that I have in an indoor situation and where things are on the line and the room for air is so small than I ever have in the woods. Again, I two beautiful bucks with my bow, but I think you just go into cruise control and then there's this huge adrenaline dump after.
Antler Up Podcast (47:51.79)
you
Antler Up Podcast (48:03.382)
Yeah. 100%.
Rob (48:04.081)
And it's like, yeah, it's like, but I can tell you every single time that I, to my knowledge, I don't think I've ever blacked out and going, what the hell happened? I knew exactly where that pin was. I fired a shot and it broke. And again, I use it as a way to advertise and shoot schwacker broadheads. had to...
Antler Up Podcast (48:12.856)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (48:27.497)
You know, track a deer over 70 yards in six or seven years, you go put a good shot on them. That arrow does its job and they pile up, you know? So, so yeah, I think, but that's the biggest thing I think you can take away as, as a competitive archer back into the woods is you just do it so much and you understand setups and stuff and understand your shot that just becomes second nature. You're just standing in the tree stand and, you know, have your clothes on, you know, you're not sweating the sweat in the middle of London, London,
Antler Up Podcast (48:53.858)
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Rob (48:57.423)
you know, it's 90 degrees. So yeah, but that's probably the easiest transition or biggest transition from competition to the woods is just the amount of arrows you shoot all year and stuff that when you get a chance in October, November, it's second nature at that point.
Antler Up Podcast (49:12.566)
And when you talk about arrows, what's your arrow setup for competition?
Rob (49:19.763)
so i usually
I bounced back and forth a little bit last year, again, another thing I'm loving about my Exalt, it's such a fast bow. I have a 28 and a half inch draw length. so, my previous bows and stuff, Matthew's just seemed to be a little bit slower. So I always had to shoot a 23 diameter arrow to get speed, or I had to twist up the strings and cables and shoot stuff at 73, 74 pounds to get speed.
is at 65 and a half pounds with a Superdrive 25 and I'm shooting 294.
I mean, so 25 series arrow is just great for 3D. You know, got the diameter and stuff to catch lines and stuff, but I think it's still plenty forgiving to shoot at distance and such too. So yeah, but I really settled in on the SuperDrive 25s again because of the speed I'm getting out of my exalt. I love it. It's been such a blessing to be able to turn my draw weight down and still get the speed.
Antler Up Podcast (50:01.934)
Thanks
Rob (50:31.795)
that I need for for judging and open class.
Antler Up Podcast (50:34.936)
Yeah, man. That's awesome. How is I mean, I know you've been saying how happy you have been, but what's the, know, like you said, you have, you've had a couple of new bows over the last couple of years. And, know, when you look at right now to maybe settle down for, this year and you're not shooting anything substantial right now for indoor, like you said, you're really just focusing on this upcoming ASA season. You know, how, how important or like
confident are you going to feel like happy going into that that session now like knowing like you know what it's just me in the bow until the time's going to matter and I think that's really from an outsider's perspective I think that's really good you're not forcing yourself to go out and compete right now when you've only had it for a little bit and it's like a new transition like I think for what you do and what your goals are it's not easy by any means just be like yeah give me you know
whatever, if I mean, yeah, I'm sure Levi, you gave him a bow tech right now, he could still could go and shoot really extremely well. Uh, but you know, we're not all Levi. So, uh, you know, I, like, I think that's a really awesome perspective of you just taking this time to shoot indoor a little bit, but to get your arrows in, but then also like focus really on that ASA to be familiar with your equipment.
Rob (51:59.743)
Yeah, I think the big thing was, is I was able to get my hands on one before we got into bow season and in the fall last year. You know, I was, I was fortunate enough to get one from a local shop here, get it set up pretty quick. I have my own shop here at my house, so I can literally do anything and everything tuning and set up wise and, and stuff. So I was able to get, my hands on one, immediately just pleased with, with how it held. I'm a command shooter as well, in competition.
Antler Up Podcast (52:29.038)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (52:29.717)
actually have it backwards so I shoot a hinge in the woods and I command shoot on a 3D course and target course so but yeah when I was able to go out and post a high score one of my higher scores known
After literally 10 10 14 days of having the bow I didn't have a whole season with it didn't have this great relationship with a bunch of arrows through it that I knew exactly how this bow was gonna react and I mean the bow just pointed and it just aimed and as a command shooter If it don't move or doesn't move a whole lot and it's where it needs to be I can fire my shot confidently and know that it's it's gonna be closer land where it needs to and Yeah, so that was that's probably been a big help as I've I've shot it under a competitive
Antler Up Podcast (53:00.515)
Yeah.
Rob (53:18.474)
atmosphere, know, competitive round so far. So yeah, I've just been now just getting my reps in. I did make like some changes. not indoor. I used to shoot a dot, you know, and have maybe a very specific indoor setup. Again, I'm not shooting an indoor national tournament. I'm putting my focus on 3D. So I went back to trying to shoot my bows as close to a 3D setup as possible. I have one bow shooting 27s. I don't like losing either.
Antler Up Podcast (53:30.83)
Mm-hmm.
Rob (53:47.367)
I want to leave a 25 series arrow to a 27. There's a difference. Again, know, and X counts and stuff matter. I'm trying to be as competitive as possible as well, too. So I got one bow set up with 27s and stuff right now for indoor. And then my other one is set up for 3D ready to rock. So so, yeah, I'm confident that when we get to Foley, I'll be just fine. It's more of the rangefinder for me. If I know how far it is, I feel confident I can hit it. I don't know if I'm going to be, you
Antler Up Podcast (53:48.63)
Yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (54:12.216)
Yeah. Yeah.
Rob (54:17.311)
Jimmy Lutz and Kyle Douglas just pound 17, 18 out of 20 type of thing. But if I could figure out how far it is, I'm going to hit some rings and be competitive with it.
Antler Up Podcast (54:30.37)
Hell yeah, man. Now that's awesome, dude. what kind of, what kind of, what, do you have any goals set for yourself this year for this upcoming year? You know, along those lines.
Rob (54:41.501)
Yeah, I mean, again, I feel so unsatisfied with how my professional career has gone. And I try to be gracious to myself. learning.
You know, I haven't been judging. I haven't been judging for, you know, a lifetime. You know, I've been judging for four, five years now. This will be my fifth year. So I still have a lot of targets to see, a lot of situations to get into, you know, strategies and such. So, so yeah, I mean, my goal still, I still think I can, I can win, right? You know, you catch fire for a weekend and that's where there's, confidence and you just catch fire for a weekend with good numbers. You know, I think anybody in our class can win.
And so that's obviously the number one goal. But yeah, I want to make shoot offs and then again not realistically with myself like let's finish in the top 20. Let's finish it. Let's get some top tens, you know, let's Let's not shoot any fives in a weekend. Let you know go a couple weekends without shooting fives, you know, they're so detrimental to to your score and even mentally, you know, you got to get past them, but they really do tank your scorecard and so
You know, it takes a really strong weekend to recover from from shooting a five, even one out of 40 targets. So just staying away from making big mistakes and and really scoring well. I think that's probably my biggest thing is I've been able to keep it in the 10 ring pretty well, but that doesn't that doesn't score well. That doesn't get you in the shootoff is keeping it in the 10 ring in our class. It did it in semi pro, but in our class, you've got to hit 12. So just trying to keep my 12 count up as high as I possibly can and give myself an upper
Antler Up Podcast (56:07.022)
Yeah.
Rob (56:21.111)
to make the dance on Saturday afternoons.
Antler Up Podcast (56:24.686)
Heck yeah, man. No, dude, that's awesome. I'm pumped. I'm excited to watch you this year and see your success and how you come through it with everything. you lit a little fire under me tonight and making me go shoot a little bit like how we saying earlier. I snuck like five arrows in to shoot outside like it was getting a little bit of dark. And it's like, got my
wife took the baby upstairs for a bath. My oldest was like doing something else. I was like, all I'm going to go rip five arrows. You got to take what you can get, man. So no dude, Rob, I appreciate you taking the time tonight to talk archery, talk a little bit of hunting. We didn't even probably cover as much as I really would want to, but that actually sets up perfect because now we can have another conversation here another month or two or something. We'll, do part two and see where you're at and, and, maybe
Rob (56:59.903)
Yeah.
Antler Up Podcast (57:19.874)
I'll have another idea of what we could kind of cover in that one. I kind of already have an idea, but dude, I appreciate your time. know you got a lot going on. I got some stuff I got to attend to for tonight and where can people follow along, see what you're up to and anything along those lines.
Rob (57:38.675)
Yeah, I'm on Instagram a ton, I'm to be...
more active and kind of try to produce more content this year. So I'm trying to do that, but just my first initial, my last name on Instagram and then Facebook, know, Robb Yarmark and stuff. So I don't think I'll dive down the YouTube channel yet, but I'm to try to produce more reels and just put out more quality content on my Instagram and stuff so people can follow along with the season and just some of the things that I do, some of the things that have helped me get to
another level or some helpful hints and tips and stuff so yeah I'm gonna try to be a little bit more proactive in that side of things with social media but yeah I appreciate the opportunity man I can I can talk about this stuff for hours and look forward to hopping back on here in a couple months
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Heck yeah, man. We'll, for sure do that, dude. I appreciate your time. Thanks again, everybody for tuning in. Make sure you go check Rob out. I've thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and I hope you did as well, but also I'm telling you, just listening to Rob and, and just knowing, you know, the success that he's had and, and, know, just the eagerness that he wants to continue to have and strive for, it's awesome. So give them a follow, check it out.
see how that journey goes and push yourself. Like I said, man, it's it, you don't know unless you, you, you try it. And that was very well said during that episode. So thanks again, Rob. Thanks again, everybody for tuning in. We'll see you next week. Antler up.
