This week on The Average Conservationist Podcast, Marcus sits down with Jorde Matthews and Robert Hilliker from 2% Certified Campfire Manufacturing. Campfire Manufacturing is an outdoor lifestyle apparel brand based out of Colorado and Texas. The conversation kicks off with Jorde and Robert talking about what it is that they do and how they were introduced to the outdoors. The guys talk about how the outdoors is such a powerful tool to connect with friends and family and how they arrived on the brand's name. Jorde discusses the turning point in his outdoor journey after having kids and how that changed his entire outlook and perspective as it pertains to conservation. Campfire Manufacturing offers a ton of awesome gear from men, women and children and raises money for conservation in the process. If you're in the market for some new gear, be sure and check them out at campfiremfg.com.