Show Notes
Brian Krebs and Tyler Preszler discuss their upcoming hunting season and Tyler's once-in-a-lifetime sheep hunt in the Northwest Territories of Canada. They talk about the preparation and fitness required for a sheep hunt, the challenges of aging a ram, and the decision to do a Euro mount and a replica for the full body mount. Tyler shares his experience of hunting in a low-density area and the excitement of spotting and taking down a big ram. They also touch on the importance of managing sheep populations and the regulations surrounding sheep hunting. The conversation covers various topics related to hunting, including field dressing and taxidermy, hunting caribou and sheep, flying with firearms, and the taste of different game meats. The guys discuss the process of field dressing animals, with a focus on caribou and elk.
Tyler shares his experiences hunting caribou and sheep, including the challenges and rewards of these hunts. The conversation touches on the logistics of flying with firearms and the importance of starting with more approachable hunts before tackling more challenging ones. The guys also discuss the taste and tenderness of different game meats, such as caribou and sheep. Tyler Preszler discusses his hunting adventures and his quest for the North American Super 10. He shares stories of encounters with bears and the precautions he takes to keep his camp safe. Tyler also talks about the financial aspect of hunting and the challenges of affording expensive hunts. He mentions his upcoming trip to Kodiak Island for blacktail deer and his future plans for hunting moose and mountain lion. Tyler emphasizes the importance of adventure and the support he receives from his wife in pursuing his hunting goals.
Takeaways:
- Sheep hunting requires extensive preparation and fitness due to the challenging nature of the hunt.
- Aging a ram can be difficult, and it is often best to rely on the expertise of guides to determine the age and legality of a ram.
- Many hunters choose to do a Euro mount for their sheep trophy to appreciate the size and weight of the horns, while also getting a replica made for a full body mount.
- Sheep populations require careful management to ensure their survival, and regulations are in place to protect the resource.
- Hunting in low-density areas can provide unique opportunities to spot and take down big rams. Field dressing animals requires careful technique and attention to detail
- Hunting caribou and sheep can be challenging but rewarding experiences
- Flying with firearms requires following specific protocols and regulations
- Starting with more approachable hunts can be a good way to gain experience before tackling more challenging hunts
- The taste and tenderness of game meats can vary depending on the species Take precautions to keep your camp safe from bears when hunting in bear country.
- Hunting can be expensive, and it's important to plan and budget accordingly.
- DIY hunts can be a more affordable option for hunting big game.
- Support from loved ones is crucial in pursuing hunting goals.
- The North American Super 10 is a challenging and rewarding hunting achievement.
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Show Transcript
Brian Krebs (00:00.046)
fuzzy, it should record in the background. Yesterday my wifi dropped completely, like
really hard during the podcast, so I'm hopeful we have better luck today. Yeah, it took
like all day to fix too.
Tyler Preszler (00:08.149)
Alright.
Tyler Preszler (00:12.792)
Well, hopefully yours is better than mine. My Wi -Fi is a little hit and miss sometimes, so
especially in the basement.
Brian Krebs (00:17.856)
I've got an ethernet connection, so it should be good. I don't know why it dropped out
yesterday. Turn my Bluetooth off on my phone. All right, let's get her going. before we
start, how do you pronounce your last name? it Prezler? OK, perfect. I always like to
worry about messing people's names up. All right.
Tyler Preszler (00:21.112)
jeez, yeah.
Tyler Preszler (00:34.484)
You got it, perfect. Yep.
Nope, that's perfect.
Brian Krebs (00:44.014)
Welcome back to another Western rookie podcast brought to you by go hunt I'm your
host Brian Krebs and before we kick this episode off I'm just gonna ask you take a quick
minute and give the podcast a rating or a review on whichever platform you're listening
on it really helps us grow the show and I greatly appreciate it that way we can help more
people learn how to hunt the West and and feel that passion and excitement when
they're 40 yards from a
a bugle and bull elk or whatever animal they are chasing. I promise you will still be here
when you get back. But if you want to go do that, I really do appreciate it. And with that,
let's kick this episode off. We have Tyler Presler on the call today. How are you doing
today, Tyler?
Tyler Preszler (01:26.222)
doing good man no complaints here so hunting season's right around the corner about
well 10 10 days or so away here in Nebraska so we're getting close I am yep I live in
Nebraska Northeast corner yep
Brian Krebs (01:35.968)
You're in Nebraska. What's part of Nebraska? Like which direction?
Northeast corner. Okay, so you're kind of down by is that the Yankton River?
Tyler Preszler (01:47.03)
Yeah, yeah, we're about an hour a little northwest of Omaha and an hour north of
Lincoln. So to kind of give you a little geographic region.
Brian Krebs (01:52.961)
Okay.
Well, ironically, 10 days from now, I'll be going to Nebraska with my bow. That's why I
asked, do you get this, this time of the year, I would say maybe the last two weeks up
until season, do you get this sense of like impending urgency and like, I'm not ready.
Like time is moving too fast. I haven't been doing enough. I got all these things I got to
get done. Do you get that sense? Or is that just me?
Tyler Preszler (02:00.225)
There we go.
Tyler Preszler (02:22.402)
No, I'm right there with you, especially this year. it's, you know, I got a little one now, so
time's a little harder to kind of scratch out some those moments to prepare, but we're
getting there. So.
Brian Krebs (02:34.894)
Yeah, and that's the problem. It comes either way, whether you're ready or not. It's like,
here I come. It's like good old game of hide and seek and, and fall just sneaks right up
on you. When I was, when I was single living, you know, in a city, I was living in a city.
had like a town home. There's nothing to do ever. Right. I was shooting my boat all the
time. I was doing 10 reps in the morning in my basement before work. I was shooting in
the evenings in the backyard. There's never anything to do. Now we live on a farm.
Tyler Preszler (02:38.432)
Yup. Yup.
Brian Krebs (03:04.27)
like a 40 acre farmstead with hunting land and it's like, and there's always something to
do, right? I was going to shoot my bow last night and practice and we've been doing, we
just started doing saddles this year. our first year in saddles and we got the XOP set up.
That's who we're going to Nebraska with. I'm really excited for this hunt and I was going
to shoot like, I was like, I'm going to dedicate like two hours. I'm going to be shooting my
bow, getting up and down in that saddle, just practicing. I've been doing a little bit of it.
Well sure enough, I get a guy on Facebook that wants to come buy a bunch of oak logs
from me and then my fertilizer shows up, my liquid fertilizer shows up for our food plots
and it's about to rain so I'm like, hey I should spray this and I should do that and all of
it's like dark out and I'm like, well, another night I didn't get any shooting in. So, I don't
know.
Tyler Preszler (03:47.436)
Yeah. So it sounds like, are you whitetail hunting opener? Okay.
Brian Krebs (03:52.352)
Yeah, I think so. I mean, if a mule deer walks underneath me, I won't hesitate as well.
think we'll be, I should ask you this. So we have the statewide archery tags. From what I
read, we can shoot mule deer bucks as non -residents as long as we are not in one of
the mule deer conservation areas.
Tyler Preszler (04:12.076)
I believe that's correct. Yup. I'm pretty certain that's correct. I know they did a lot of
changing this year with the regulations. So I'd maybe do a quick double check, but
yeah, I'm pretty certain one is a statewide archery and you're not in that mule, their
conservation area. You're good to go for a buck. Those I'm pretty sure are still off limits,
but bucks are good.
Brian Krebs (04:13.75)
Yeah, well, if the game weren't asked me, I'd be like, Tyler told me I could do this.
Brian Krebs (04:23.341)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (04:35.234)
For non -residents, do think that the mule deer does. And quite frankly, I'm not a guy
that I think will ever shoot a mule deer doe, or at least not for a long time. Just with mule
deer populations going the direction they've been going, I think they need all the help
they can get, and I'm not gonna go out there and whack any mamas.
Tyler Preszler (04:52.632)
That's fair.
Brian Krebs (04:54.572)
Yeah, I don't think we will see a lot of mule deer because we're going to be, we're going
to be, apparently we're testing out some new product and we've got a photographer
coming along. So I think we're really going to kind of stick to the saddles and, and I just
don't know if we're going to be in the right areas to really have high chances at mule
deer. I'm guessing they're probably higher up in the broken country. you know, not
necessarily always in the river bottoms next to like oak flats and oak, you know,
mounds, but.
You never know.
Tyler Preszler (05:24.974)
You don't, we don't have anywhere we are here. We're all white tail here, but I mean, I
could drive an hour and a half a little bit west of here and some guys start running into
them. they're, yeah.
Brian Krebs (05:37.506)
We will be west, far enough west that we will probably see some driving around and
stuff. Yeah, I've never shot a mule deer with my bow, so that would be cool.
Tyler Preszler (05:49.592)
There we go.
Brian Krebs (05:51.34)
That would be cool. but no, I wanted to get you on the podcast cause it seems like
you've gone on quite a few adventures. some hunts, I would, you know, a lot of people
say once in a lifetime hunt and I think it gets used overused. Cause from what I've
found, a lot of times when you do these once in a lifetime hunts, you come home and be
like, okay, how do I do it again? Right? How do I do this next year? A lot of people will
say, I'm going to go on my once in a lifetime elk hunt. And then they elk on every year
after that. So.
Tyler Preszler (06:19.701)
Yep, it's so true.
Brian Krebs (06:21.516)
Yeah, it gets overused, but in your case, I think you've probably have done a few once
in a lifetime, true once in a lifetime hunts. And I think that'd be really cool to hear your
story on those.
Tyler Preszler (06:31.512)
Definitely one of them for sure. My sheep hunt last year was probably a once in a
lifetime hunt unless I get lucky in a draw.
Brian Krebs (06:37.678)
Yeah, so yeah, let's kick off with the sheep hunt. That's the big one. You know, I think a
lot of people know that sheep hunting is something different, right? It's not common.
don't probably know. Maybe a lot of people probably don't even know a sheep hunter.
They've never met someone that shot a sheep. And so they're like, I don't know. It
seems like it's probably like harder maybe. you know, not a lot of people do it. Maybe
it's hard to get tags, whatnot. I don't know if a lot of people really understand how.
extreme every aspect of sheep hunting is like, you know, when we do our draw odds in
the lower 48 with the go hunt bonus series, you know, I'll touch on the sheep, but I
usually gloss over it because I'm like, Hey, if you want to draw sheep in Nevada, you're
looking at 0 .001%. And you're like, so it means it's going to take you 10 ,000 years on
average to draw this tag. Right. And that's. Yeah. I assume.
Tyler Preszler (07:22.446)
Yup.
Tyler Preszler (07:29.198)
And that's assuming things don't change. More people are going to apply, odds are
going to get worse.
Brian Krebs (07:34.334)
Sheep populations are, you know, just like sheep are hard critters to keep alive. I mean,
you talk to any farmer and that, you know, sheep get diseases, they die. They're,
they're, they're not durable. Like elk, elk are durable. You keep, they are very hard to
kill. You know, they, they're disease resistant. They're hardy. They like cold winters. You
know, they can handle high heat summers. You know, sheep are not that, you know,
they get one whiff of pneumonia and the whole herd is gone. So.
Yeah, it's hard to drive, very hard to drive a tag, and that's just the beginning. I mean,
that truly is probably the easy part, is getting the tag.
Tyler Preszler (08:13.772)
Depending on the hunt, let's just say that. Depending on the hunt. Some are obviously
easier than others. And if I ever get lucky enough to draw a Nebraska sheep tag, they
draw one a year. mean, this.
Brian Krebs (08:14.892)
Yeah, yeah.
Brian Krebs (08:22.87)
Yeah. Yeah. Bighorns in the Black Hills. Maybe different than where you went to go get
your doll sheep. So the question was, was that an Alaska hunt or were you in Canada?
Tyler Preszler (08:28.897)
Exactly.
Tyler Preszler (08:35.832)
So all's up in Canada, all's up in Northwest Territories. Yep.
Brian Krebs (08:37.047)
Canada. Okay, okay. I'm guessing then you had to go with an outfitter just with
Canada's big game rules.
Tyler Preszler (08:43.564)
Yep, yep, how to go with an outfitter up there.
Brian Krebs (08:48.654)
That's incredible. So you found a way, which I guess maybe there's a part of the work of
sheep hunting is like, got to work your tail off for a few years to do that too. I mean,
there's no good way to go sheep hunting. You can wait 40 years and try to draw a tag.
You can do a DIY tag in Alaska and a few places over the counter in Montana. But then
you're looking at like, there might be two sheep in my entire hundred square miles and I
got to figure out where they are and then get to them. Not easy. Or you got to work your
tail off.
and find an outfitter that's got an opening and, you know, be picking up extra overtime
shifts and all kinds of stuff because it's not cheap because of the demand. And so
there's no matter how you slice it, there's not a way to be like, Hey, it's August 21 while
we're having this conversation. I want to go sheep hunting this year. It's like good luck.
Go to a farm and pick out your nanny and bring it home. I don't know.
Tyler Preszler (09:38.648)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (09:44.696)
So it's a tough one. you got the pre -work done, right? You did the overtime or whatever,
you got on the list. What's it like going into a sheep hunt with the preparation? Like what
did you go, what were you doing to make sure you were getting every ounce of
experience out of that trip as possible, knowing that it likely is one of the only times
you'll ever do it.
Tyler Preszler (09:46.807)
It is.
Tyler Preszler (10:09.198)
It's, I mean, so much goes into a sheep hunt, you know? So the hunt was 2023. I'm
trying to think when I booked it. I want to say, I think I put my deposit down in 2020 or
2021 for my 2023 hunt. So, so just there alone, the anticipation plus COVID, COVID
happened Alaska or sorry, Canada completely shut their borders. So they had.
Brian Krebs (10:26.284)
wow, yeah, way's out.
Brian Krebs (10:32.375)
you
Tyler Preszler (10:36.768)
was it one full season of no sheep hunters at all. So there was a lot of struggle when it
came to redoing the schedules. Certain guys getting bumped, they asked for volunteers
to say, hey, do you want to hunt your same year? Do you want to push it? You know, it's
going to cost the same. Do what you need to do. We understand, but we got to try to get
guys in. So it was stressful, you know, leading up to it. But
Brian Krebs (10:59.362)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (11:03.97)
Finally, after all that kind of panned out, as far as the preparation leading up to it that
summer, I mean, that was actually right about a year ago. I was up there August of last
year. And like you said, fitness is a big thing. This was a bit of a gentleman's sheep
hunt. So the Northwest territories can do helicopter assist. So that's how they access
country is via helicopter.
It's just the route that I ended up going. Honestly, it was availability. You know, I wanted
to go to Northwest Territories because I knew I could get in and that's just kind of the
way most of their outfits are up there. There's one in the entire outfit up in Northwest
Territory that does not do helicopter, but the outfit I went with does. But still a hard hunt.
You know, they just, get you close. They get you close enough.
Brian Krebs (11:58.562)
Right.
Tyler Preszler (12:00.206)
and you kind of have to go from there.
Brian Krebs (12:02.498)
So the helicopter assist, they're bringing you to like the valley, right? Like these high, I
don't know what the best correlation would be, but it's, you know, it's a high elevation
valley, right? And then, you know, the sheep, you know, they can't land you on the shale
up on the mountain where the sheep actually are, right? So you still have to climb. Well,
do they hover and let you just jump out? But.
Tyler Preszler (12:05.632)
Mm
Essentially. Yep. Yep.
Tyler Preszler (12:22.174)
You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised. Not quite. mean, obviously, so it's Northwest
Territories. It's nice rolling hills and it's not that cheap that certain areas are super steep
and super shaly, but it's not kind of what you expect like what you see in like Alaska,
you know. So a lot of them are nice rounded tops, you know, so they can drop you on
those fairly well. But still, you got to hike. You got to find the sheep. You got to hike.
Brian Krebs (12:32.749)
Okay.
Brian Krebs (12:36.835)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (12:40.911)
Okay.
Tyler Preszler (12:50.728)
And just because they're not in that basin, I mean, they could still be three basins over.
So you still got to go find them.
Brian Krebs (12:55.99)
Yeah, and there's still no hunting the day you fly anywhere. So even if you see sheep on
the way in, you can't go get them. You can't land too close or they're not going to be
there. know, there's a lot of still a lot of things that go into it. So you were just, you know,
full on fitness, I assume, probably doing a lot of endurance work, a lot of lung capacity
work.
Tyler Preszler (13:14.284)
Yeah. Yep. A lot of bike, a of running, a lot of stair master.
Brian Krebs (13:17.666)
Yeah. Because you know, if you're doing the helicopter assist, which hey, there's a lot of
ways you can be a badass and you don't have to walk from your house in Nebraska up
to the Northwest Territories to be a badass. I use tractors to plant my food plots instead
of doing them by hand too. you know what I mean? I definitely would be on board with
the whole helicopter thing.
So they're like, yeah, you can walk up through the underbrush or we can bring you there
in a helicopter. like, I'm gonna do the helicopter. I'm gonna do that. How much is a
helicopter? Yeah, I'm gonna do the helicopter. But you land, you're probably not doing
like the 12 hours in with all of camp on your backpack stuff, which would add a different
element to your training regimen, I'm sure, right? know, planning that 80 to 100 pound
pack in.
Tyler Preszler (14:08.75)
And I had planned on that because sometimes depending on where they drop you, they
can drop you there and then you can go, you know, so you just didn't really know until
you got up there and how your hunt was going to be, you know, especially being a
young guy, you know, that they don't get a lot of super young people in camp, you
know, like they're pretty excited to have a young buck in camp. So I didn't know what I
was getting myself into as far as was it going to be they can drop me on a sheep or is it
going to be a 12 mile ruck and then we got to find them. So.
Brian Krebs (14:14.019)
Mm.
Brian Krebs (14:36.096)
Yeah, well, I'm assuming they don't get a lot of young guys because it takes a lot of
hours to save up. you, you know, if you don't have a lot of responsibilities, you can get a
lot of those hours in in two years. But if you're like, you know, got family and kids and a
bunch of other things, can take a lot longer to get those hours in. Or if you're, you know,
a career path where you just can't pick up overtime whenever you want. Like me, I can
work all day long, but I'm only getting paid for eight hours of it. So.
You know, I can't just keep working the overtime. So yeah, they're probably not used to
someone coming out that's, you know, on the younger side and be like, hey, let's go.
Which I don't know, is that a good thing or a bad thing? They're, they're always going to
be in better shape than you. So no matter how fit you are, they're still going to push you
right to the red line. So is that what your experience was too? Like these guys just can't
keep up with them if they want to leave you. I mean, they're not going to cause they're
your guide, but like you're huffing and puffing and ready for a break and they're still.
Tyler Preszler (15:21.975)
Yup.
Tyler Preszler (15:28.397)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (15:33.624)
Jabbering away.
Tyler Preszler (15:35.691)
Yep. I mean, like you said, these guys get up there and I think this was their fourth or
fifth kind of a year. I can't remember. So by then they're top shape. They're the best
they're going to be. And I they're starting to wind down sheep hunting. They're getting
ready to start transitioning into moose hunting. I think a hunter too after mine. mean,
their mindset was already starting to change just a little bit, it seemed like.
Brian Krebs (15:58.604)
Yeah, so do you think that helped you in any way or hurt you? So if you're one of the
last hunts in camp, obviously other big rams have had opportunities to take, but they've
also been there all fall and they probably have a better idea of where rams are this year.
you know, they're like, yeah, we've, you know, we've been seeing rams on this
mountain all day long or all year long, but the guys in camp didn't want to go that way or
they couldn't get up there. What's your take on that?
Tyler Preszler (16:26.158)
I think if they're running their area like they should, it doesn't matter. Because the basin
that I hunted, it was a pretty small basin. They hadn't been in there for like three or four
years. Hadn't been hunted in three or four years.
Brian Krebs (16:30.626)
Really.
Brian Krebs (16:41.845)
so you did get like fresh ground.
Tyler Preszler (16:44.478)
yeah, they don't hunt the same ground routinely. Sometimes they will, depending if they
know they have an age appropriate ram. Cause with sheep hunting, it's all about age.
They don't want to a giant full curl seven year old. They don't want that. You're going to
shoot the 12 year old standing next to him, even if he's smaller. That's just kind of the
way it works with sheep hunting and going for age.
Brian Krebs (17:09.238)
Yeah, how so one of the things that I've always struggled with I understand how to age
a sheep and I've looked at pictures and I'm like, man, there's no way I would feel
confident in this doing this. Like if I didn't have a guide there telling me like, yeah, that's
that one's legal. And, you know, some some units it is about legality, not just, you know,
quality herd management.
Tyler Preszler (17:33.09)
Yeah, I struggle with it. I struggle with it. You know, when they dropped me into the
basin that we hunted, they straight up told me they're like,
Brian Krebs (17:34.69)
Did you struggle with that?
Tyler Preszler (17:45.762)
there is not a lot of rams in this area. You're either going to find them tonight or
tomorrow, or we're going to pick you up and we're going to move you because they're,
they, they, was such a low density area, but they knew there's mature rams in there. So
it's like, you're going to either kill one here in the next day and a half, or we're going to
move you. So yeah, yeah. I shot my round the first day. Yeah. I went caribou hunting.
Brian Krebs (17:51.607)
Really.
Brian Krebs (18:00.91)
And is that what happened? Yeah. wow. What'd you do for the rest of the trip then?
nice. That would be so cool. So when you so I'm assuming the guy you're looking at it
and you're like, that's a big ram. And the guy's like, yeah, he's, you know, 11 and a half
years old. You're like, OK, cool. You know, you knew he was big, but the guide was the
one that really confirmed it. Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (18:24.814)
Yeah. I mean, this, happened so fast too. You know, I glossed up this ram first thing in
the morning. It looked like a wet rock just sticking up over the ridge line. And I'm like,
Hey Brady, take a look at this. Is that a ram over there? And sure enough, he's, got to
look at it. I mean, you could just see the tops of it and they disappeared. And so then we
ended up working around, coming up over them, set up on top of this little base and 300
yards away.
and they never showed, know, rainstorms come through, we're getting rained on and
next thing you know, he finds them across the canyon, pretty much where we were that
morning. And he put his spotter up so quick and is like, we need to go kill that ram. Like
he didn't even, he didn't even let me look at it. He's like, we need to go kill him.
Brian Krebs (19:06.414)
boy.
Brian Krebs (19:13.794)
That's a shooter. Yeah, when your guide says it instantly, that's a good tale.
Wow.
Tyler Preszler (19:21.25)
full curl one side, broomed on the other. He's like, he's a good ram, we need to go kill
him.
Brian Krebs (19:25.196)
So what's broom to mean? Past full curl?
Tyler Preszler (19:27.768)
So big rams, once they get certain ages, they like to rub one side. from what I've heard,
they can start seeing it in their peripheral vision. And they rub it. So it's essentially when
it gets, they rub it off. So it's just not that nice lamb tip. So it's essentially kind of broken
off or off.
Brian Krebs (19:43.618)
Okay.
but it's still big and heavy and like the age is kind of that's part of the reason why I've
always struggled to measure them or to age them. Like the, like I can count the first two
rings on your ram behind you from here, but the, the ones out on the tip where it's, it's
like, first of all, they broke off. So, you know, the guides can be like, yeah, but he would
have had two more. And I'm like, I don't know, like how many, how many would he have
had? And so that's the part. And then they, sometimes they're like, is that
Tyler Preszler (19:51.022)
yeah, yeah.
Tyler Preszler (20:12.632)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (20:16.846)
just a, is that a growth ring or is that just a line? know, I mean, imagine if you're doing a
DIY in Alaska or there's a couple of places you can do DIY and if, there are rules, I think
a lot of times it's like 10 year old Rams is a com.
Tyler Preszler (20:20.887)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (20:32.238)
Yeah, 10 year or got to be certain like at last one setting 10 or past full curl. I think.
Brian Krebs (20:36.822)
Right, so it's like he's not passed full curl, he's broomed, I count, I think nine rings, and
he probably would have had another, man, I can't imagine the stress. And everyone
takes sheep hunting very seriously, right? Like, know, breaking the rules is a non -
starter for any game animal, really, but there's a lot of scrutiny on the sheep because
they're such a valuable resource and they are very,
Tyler Preszler (20:57.56)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (21:06.958)
I don't want to say endangered. They're not endangered, but their populations don't
explode like a white tail in the Midwest, right? Like there's a lot of pressure to keep this
resource available. And so yeah, I would be, I would be terrified. I would be shooting
things. like, I'm pretty sure it's got 12, which means it probably really has 11 and it's four
inches past full curl, which means it's probably actually at full curl. But I got a lot of
margin here. This is a good one, which
Tyler Preszler (21:15.512)
Definitely.
Brian Krebs (21:36.392)
That would be a monster ram anyway. Probably not going to find that on my DIY hunt.
Tyler Preszler (21:40.238)
The nice thing about Northwest Territory, one, I was outfitted so I trust my guide.
Second, they actually don't have a legal age or full curl there. The state just lets the
outfitters, yeah, they trust them. That's way it's been because they've done so well at
managing for age. I want to say last year, their average RAM was 10. So I think my
RAM was 11 and a half.
Brian Krebs (21:46.69)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (21:51.916)
Yeah. The guides handle it. Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (22:10.538)
So... Yeah.
Brian Krebs (22:11.63)
That's awesome. And so for the folks watching the video or the clips, they'll see it. It's
behind you there on display. So you did the Euro mount. I'm interested in hearing from
you. So there's, I feel like there's been a little bit of not controversy or debate, but
maybe a little bit of a newer understanding or a new practice, common practice maybe
is the best way to say it. So if I shoot a giant whitetail, right? I'm shoulder mounting. I
shoot a giant elk, I'm shoulder mounting.
I feel like it's very common nowadays for guys that shoot big rams to not shoulder
mount them because they want to be able to pick the euro up and just like, you know,
really take in how big it is and how heavy it is. So is that kind of where you were going
with it as well?
Tyler Preszler (22:56.6)
So, so yes, so this is the original Ram, the original, original horns, original Euro, but I did
get a replica made and that's going to go on the full body mount. So.
Brian Krebs (23:08.342)
Yeah, so that's what I've been hearing a lot of people do is they keep the original on
their desk or at work or wherever. And that way when someone, you know, I imagine,
well, first of all, I probably wouldn't keep a just loose on my desk at work. That sounds a
little dangerous. But, you know, when someone comes back, you pick that up and
they're like, okay, holy s***. They're expecting like a heavy whitetail and it's not. it's, it's
really heavy. And then they do the replica for the full body, which is
Tyler Preszler (23:26.05)
Yeah, exactly.
No.
Mm -hmm. Yup.
Brian Krebs (23:38.114)
Where did you go to get the replica made for your full body? Did you have to get like a
full cast or did you do some type of like 3D scanning?
Tyler Preszler (23:45.964)
No, so there's, I'm using Dewey's taxidermy for my full body. And they work very closely
with the group there in Cody. So I think it's back country decor. That's all they do. All
they do is replicas for sheep. So they do a ton of them. So, and it turned out.
Brian Krebs (23:51.319)
Okay.
Brian Krebs (24:05.751)
Okay.
Brian Krebs (24:11.244)
That's awesome. I know there's a lot. Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (24:13.29)
incredible. If they sent me pictures of it, it's like, it's, it's perfect. So
Brian Krebs (24:19.17)
That is so cool. How did you, so I've always been curious about how skinning an animal
in the field, caping it for a full body goes. So is it just like, you got to really make sure
every cut is perfect or did the guide handle that?
Tyler Preszler (24:37.088)
I let the guy to handle that. I was there and helping hold stuff, I mean, so my guide was
Brady. He's Brady Lowell. He's been big time sheep hunter. He's younger than me,
think mid thirties. And this was his 80th ram that he was a part of. So I let the
professional hand the full body cape because they do, he did such an amazing job.
mean, it looked not a lick of extra meat on it. It was like perfect.
Brian Krebs (24:52.3)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (25:06.966)
Yeah, it's pretty incredible.
Brian Krebs (25:07.128)
So is it basically just up the back or the inside of each leg, you go to the last joint and
then does he just cut the whole hoof right off and you bring the whole hoof out?
Tyler Preszler (25:18.156)
Yeah, yeah, and they went a little further. Like they actually got to get the bones out of
the actual hoof back at camp. Like, I mean, it was, pretty incredible what they can do,
do with those things. Cause they, they, they salt them all up there up mill and over.
They salt them all, hang them and dry them, re -salt them. It's, it's pretty incredible what
they do.
Brian Krebs (25:27.884)
Really. And then just.
Brian Krebs (25:37.14)
Also, well with the helicopter, can drop in enough salt. I don't know if I'd want to carry up
a softener salt bag with me.
Tyler Preszler (25:40.002)
Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is that base camp, you know, this is that base camp, which has
all the typical amenities, you know, so that base camp, did that. Yep.
Brian Krebs (25:47.762)
so it's got like where their cabin and their lodges and everything. OK, OK. So, yeah,
they've got plenty of resources there. And then they just go up and they do they just
make like two Y cuts, you know, go up both legs, Y it to the belly line. And then from
there, everything is just peeled off, kind of like a normal.
Tyler Preszler (26:05.976)
Yeah. So right up, right up the back, typically I want to say they wide it, but I mean,
those horns are so massive. mean, there's only a half inch between, between the horns,
you know, so there's Yep. Yep. We just peeled it off. Yep. Nope. Right up, right up the
center of the back.
Brian Krebs (26:16.03)
so they went down the spine and then every that was the only cut down the spine and
then everything else was kind of. Peeled it out. OK, I got you. I was thinking maybe from
the underneath, but yeah, that makes more sense. That's how I do it for elk. I've I've
kept two bowls for shoulder mounting and I did the but I just stopped, you know what? I
probably actually saved enough hide to mount for elk.
I was told by my taxidermist, like, you saved way too much hide, by the way. And I'm
like, that's why I was so happy.
Tyler Preszler (26:49.174)
I'd rather have too much than not enough.
Brian Krebs (26:50.99)
Well, for the one, was like, yeah, 350 inch bowl. I'm not messing this up. Yeah. And I
now I know why I dropped my heads off when I can and let them cape the face, caping
that elk face out when I knew like I do not want to make a mistake. I'll do it again if I
have to. But man, if there's any opportunity to just give it to a taxidermist, I'm like, this is
why I pay you, man. Like I don't want to mess this up. And this is it's not easy,
especially when you really care.
Tyler Preszler (27:19.116)
Well, an elk's a little different than a mule deer or a whitetail, you know, that little gland
they got in their nose is just, I don't know.
Brian Krebs (27:26.542)
it took me probably at least 30 minutes to an hour to get those, eye and the gland out.
Tyler Preszler (27:32.066)
Yep. Not as easy.
Brian Krebs (27:33.89)
Yeah, it was tough. The end of it's easy. You know, once you can get into the gums and
like in the nose, that stuff wasn't as bad. But yeah, getting around the horns, the ears,
you know, and the eyes just making sure you're not cutting off anything you need. That
part was that part was pretty sketchy. So you've you've you've finished your sheep hunt
early. So I have a buddy, loose acquaintance, my brother's pretty good friends with him.
He got a sheep slam. He did it with a bow.
Tyler Preszler (28:00.963)
Wow.
Brian Krebs (28:01.582)
It but he took him. can't remember. It was 46 or 47 days of hunting for a first shot
opportunity at his stone ram. Four trips, it took him four trips and so I mean, I know
stone is every sheep is different. You know his desert sheep. I think he he shot it on the
second day of his beach vacation in Mexico like it was a different hunt, right? And he
knew the last he saved that one for the last because he knew it would be easier. But the
other three are in British Columbia.
I just imagine like imagine that much time and it usually is a lot of time to get in on them.
So a day in you're probably thinking like this is unreal. Like can't imagine was the plan
always like if we tag out early I'll do caribou but we probably won't take out early or what
was the kind of the thought process there?
Tyler Preszler (28:48.27)
I paid for a caribou tag up front, you know, so yeah, they're they have pretty high
success rates, you know, I didn't expect to fill in so quickly, but it just happened to work
out that way. So.
Brian Krebs (28:51.533)
Okay.
Brian Krebs (28:57.71)
Yeah, so then you got plenty of time to caribou hunt so then did you Did you slow down
at all and you're like, okay We got eight days left and I'm caribou hunting like I'm gonna
take my time now I'm gonna you know, make sure there's a it's a good one or you know
Tyler Preszler (29:16.364)
I probably should have because I shot my curry booth the first day too. Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Krebs (29:20.757)
wow. So did you take a day in between to kind of get back to camp, get things settled,
you know?
Tyler Preszler (29:25.804)
Yep, yep. So they bring you back to base camp. So I guess second day of hunting after
I filled my my sheep tag, they flew me back into into base camp, stayed there for for the
day. And then the following day, they flew me out to caribou. And then I guess so I
guess what would have been the fourth day that I was up there. So when I shot my
caribou, yeah, probably should have held out a little bit. You just you just never know
what's going to come, you know.
Brian Krebs (29:48.938)
nice.
Brian Krebs (29:52.984)
Well, the caribou you shot was a monster too. So it's not like you could have just
watched him for five days and still shot him.
Tyler Preszler (29:56.418)
He's nice.
And honestly, we were just like, we're just going to get close and see what happens.
You know, we spotted them from camp, you know, we moved 200 yards up just to see
what happens. And next thing you know, it's like, huh, he's 300 yards. now he's 200
yards. now he's 170. It's like, he looks pretty nice.
Brian Krebs (30:21.07)
Yeah. So you've shot two caribou, right? Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (30:24.364)
Yep, yep. my caribou up in Northwest Territories. It a mountain caribou. And then I also
shot a barren ground caribou in Alaska. On a deep... Yes. Yep. Yep.
Brian Krebs (30:32.226)
Was the barren ground the hard horned one? Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's crazy. So the
caribou there, I've been told they're like a large mule deer. Is that kind of the size you'd
put like not as like a bigger than a mule deer, but not an elk.
Tyler Preszler (30:48.91)
I would say they're perfectly sized between a big mule deer and an elk. So they're
bigger than a big mule deer, I would say.
Brian Krebs (30:54.926)
Okay, like 400, 450 pounds on the hoof. I think most elk people shoot are like 600.
Tyler Preszler (31:00.909)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (31:04.386)
I mean, it's definitely bigger than a meal there for sure, but definitely smaller than an elk.
Brian Krebs (31:06.222)
Yeah, I don't think there's been any. Yeah, I'd say like a big mule deer is probably
running around 300 pounds on the hoof. A lot of people like to say they shoot thousand
pound elk and have hundred pound quarters and I just don't see it. mean, I don't know.
I've never weighed a whole elk. I'm sure people have and there probably are thousand
pound elk out there, but it wasn't the ray corn Timmy shot.
Tyler Preszler (31:28.462)
Exactly.
Brian Krebs (31:29.966)
Or the raghorn we shoot in, you know, Montana not to be hard on anyone out there
named Timmy, but It's not I don't think it's as common as people think I think Wikipedia
says big bulls can get up to a thousand pounds and then everyone assumes they all
weigh that Okay
Tyler Preszler (31:45.102)
I think Roosevelt's are the biggest body, aren't they? I think, yeah.
Brian Krebs (31:47.69)
I've heard that and I've heard specifically like the Roosevelt's on like Southeast Alaska,
like a Fogniac and Prince of Wales Island. Like those suckers I've heard are big. But
yeah, the one I shot was eight and a half years old. was. He grew up on wheat and corn
and irrigated alfalfa, no predators, no bears, private land, mild winters. I mean, he was
fat. I shot him September 8th, so beginning of the rut, you know.
peak body weight, I would say. And he had 82 pound rear quarters. And it's the biggest
elk I've ever been a part of. It's not the biggest elk ever. I mean, there's lots of giant elk
that get shot every year, but me personally was 100 % without a doubt the biggest elk
I've ever, anyone in our group has ever shot body size wise and antler size, but we're
talking body here. And I was still 20 pounds short. I mean, it's not just 20 pounds, I was
25%. Like he would have had to been 25 % bigger.
which I just don't see a lot of them doing that. I don't know. Yeah, to get a hundred
pound quarter, I just, don't think that's very common.
So the caribou that you shot, how did the meat aspect of the sheep and the caribou
hunt work out? I'm very interested. I've heard good things about caribou. I've heard a lot
of different things about sheep. So I want to hear straight from the source on just like
packing it out, maybe eating it first in camp, what that was like, you know, eating it. Did
you bring any home? You know, sometimes people donate it to local communities.
How'd that all work?
Tyler Preszler (32:56.398)
Like you said, yeah.
Tyler Preszler (33:24.856)
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the hard part with these trips, you know, because it's
logistics wise, how do you get it home, right? My big thing is, like, mean, like, obviously
this is a bit of a trophy hunt, you know, it was kind of one of those things I wanted to do.
But I am a meat hunter. I mean, I eat everything I kill. So I did struggle a little bit with
this trip. I had planned to bring a cooler of sheep and caribou meat home.
Brian Krebs (33:31.021)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (33:43.875)
Mm
Tyler Preszler (33:53.654)
but given the circumstances of what was going on last year, time, AKA the big wildfires
they were having, I wasn't able to bring any meat home, which, which stinks. it all got
donated or eaten camp, but yeah, there was giant wildfires. They actually evacuated the
entire town. Gosh, I can't remember it now. where our, where our commercial flights
were through.
Brian Krebs (34:21.133)
Okay.
Tyler Preszler (34:21.454)
So they weren't sure how I going to get home. So I actually had to get flown home
through the Yukon. So they chartered a separate flight for me so I could get home, so
out through the Yukon.
Brian Krebs (34:24.534)
oof
Brian Krebs (34:36.522)
so they chartered you to the Yukon and then they're like, once you get there, you're
going to hop on Alaskan Airlines and figure it out, you know. So it's not like they
chartered a, you know, a Boeing 737 for you. They chartered a bush plane. Yeah. Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (34:42.861)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (34:46.388)
No, yeah, I mean this is a small beaver plane that landed on the lake. It picked us up.
There was one other hunter and I and we flew to Yellowknife to get home. it was pretty
interesting.
Brian Krebs (34:57.23)
And because of that little flight that the Beaver was the plane that like you couldn't bring
a 200 pound cooler full of meat on. Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (35:04.89)
Nope, nope, Yeah. They're like, we're just thankful to get you home. I didn't even have
my gun case. I had to take a gun case from one of the outfitters, from one of the guides
to get my gun home. No, because of weight. So your lock gun case that you fly
commercially with was left at the base camp of the air charger company.
Brian Krebs (35:17.678)
If he has a weight.
Tyler Preszler (35:32.268)
And it was a separate air charter company that brought me into the Yukon.
Brian Krebs (35:36.242)
so did you get it back or did you just trade? like, they're going to give you... Yeah. Did
you come out ahead on the trade?
Tyler Preszler (35:38.88)
Nope. I did it. I did a trade. No, no, you're to laugh at this. So I double triple check to
lock combo on, this gun case, throw my gun in it. go to check in my gun the morning of
flying home. Combo is not working. And I'm like, what am I going to do? Security? It's
going to have to look in this case.
Brian Krebs (36:07.32)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (36:08.846)
And thank God they never did because I could not get it open and I had to break into
this gun case when I got home. it is.
Brian Krebs (36:17.354)
boy, so yeah, now you're out of gun case, which is a bummer. Kind of small peanuts in
the grand scope of your adventure, right? I mean, that's really often the fuzz, but still,
yeah, that is, that is crazy. You would have had to buy another one in town there.
Tyler Preszler (36:26.947)
Yep.
Tyler Preszler (36:32.782)
I don't know what I would have done because I mean, customs coming back into the
States never opened it and looked at it. So I mean, there was a lot of hiccups that could
have happened.
Brian Krebs (36:42.092)
Was this the first trip that you've flown with a firearm?
Tyler Preszler (36:46.734)
No, for our Alaska trip, I flew with a firearm as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Alaska
caribou was in, what was that? 2020, I believe. So.
Brian Krebs (36:50.124)
that one was first. Okay.
Brian Krebs (36:57.08)
How was the first time you flew with a firearm? Can you give us a little bit of insight?
Because I think that's, I would say probably one of the premier hurdles to people
hunting in Alaska is they don't know, it seems scary to fly with a firearm in addition to all
the other things. New state, Alaskan Airlines, bush pilots, trying to line everything up,
the logistics. But that's one thing that I think a lot of people kind of get hung up on as
well.
and myself included, I don't know how to fly with a firearm. So it'd be very interesting to
hear, you know, how you learned what to do, how it went. Did you get cavity searched
or not? You don't have to tell us about it, just...
Tyler Preszler (37:34.862)
Yeah. Honestly, it's pretty straightforward, you know, especially if you're flying in the
States, it's super easy, you know, because you don't have to have any proof of
anything. It's your gun. They don't look for background checks or nothing like that. Every
airlines has their policy protocols, which you got to do. Rifles are different than pistols is
how they're supposed to be secured, you know, but obviously everything's got to be
locked.
Brian Krebs (37:40.525)
Okay.
Tyler Preszler (38:05.196)
It's got to be in a hard side case and it's got to be locked. That's the main thing.
Brian Krebs (38:08.576)
And does ammo have to be separate than the firearm?
Tyler Preszler (38:12.564)
I, it does not know. I want to say in the U S it does not, but in Canada, did need to be.
Canada had to be in separate and it has to be in a hard side. Can't be loose sleeve
ammo. It's got to be in either manufacturer's case or hard side case. you reload like a
hard type hard side box, I guess.
Brian Krebs (38:14.956)
Not just looking to look at the rules, but.
Brian Krebs (38:23.424)
Okay.
Brian Krebs (38:38.252)
So you can't have a Ziploc bag full of bullets. You have to put it in like a plastic or a
metal, like could it be in like an ammo can, you know, like the big ammo can loose that,
yeah, it's gotta be so singulated. It's gotta be in a singulated, you know, container, like
individual slots for each bullet in a box. And then does that box have to be in like a
Pelican bag or could it be in like a, okay.
Tyler Preszler (38:52.044)
I don't think so. Yeah, yup.
Tyler Preszler (39:01.922)
It's not
No. I want to say I had my ammo just in my regular check bag, just in the factory box.
Brian Krebs (39:12.342)
Okay, yeah, would, mean, Factory Box to me seems like the way to go. Even if you
reload, go find a Factory Box and put it in there. like, this is nothing's goofy here. Don't
be like Brian's super secret, you know, top secret bullets. I don't, I wouldn't be doing any
of that.
Tyler Preszler (39:21.1)
Yep. Yep.
Tyler Preszler (39:30.734)
Well, I mean, one guy that I met on this sheep hunt, had his in like a bullet wallet, you
know, like a full of bullet wallet that sits in his front pocket. He ran into issues up in
Canada. They had to inspect all this stuff because it looked like loose leaf ammo, via
their x -rays. So it's like that was a pain in the butt for him.
Brian Krebs (39:43.64)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (39:50.944)
because it looked like he just had four bullets in his pocket, I bet. I'll tell you what looks
really suspicious on x -rays when you fly with an aluminum case of poker chips,
because all the poker chips are in like straight lines like coils. And then you have like
this deck of cards in the top that's like a little tiny square in the center and a couple of
other fit lads. And then it's like, yeah, they they search that real fast. There is alarms
going off. I was just like, I just wanted to play poker in Mexico.
Tyler Preszler (39:53.314)
Yep. Yep.
Tyler Preszler (40:04.404)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (40:10.978)
Yeah, that probably looks... Yeah. Yeah, that might look like something...
Tyler Preszler (40:20.771)
Yeah, it might look like something that goes boom.
Brian Krebs (40:22.956)
Yeah, like, yeah, don't do that. Sorry. Yeah, sorry. When we came back, I was like, hey,
there's a poker set in there. You want to look at that before it goes through the X -ray. I
pulled I think I pulled it out actually going home. And so then it was like no one pulls out
their their bomb and puts it through the X -ray machine. So that helped a lot. OK, so
you've flown a couple of times the caribou. So when you ate the meat in camp can kind
of get back to the original question.
Tyler Preszler (40:28.129)
Whoops.
Tyler Preszler (40:42.987)
Yeah
Brian Krebs (40:52.714)
How was the sheep?
Tyler Preszler (40:55.212)
It was awesome. Yeah.
Brian Krebs (40:56.908)
Really? So, Stakes, I'm assuming, was like the first thing.
Tyler Preszler (40:59.84)
Yeah, we, cook some steaks in camp, you know, obviously they have like a amazing
cook there. You know, I mean, you could give him anything and he's going to make it
taste amazing. So it would have been interesting for me to cook some on my own, how I
cook all my meat at home, you know, but I mean, it was.
Brian Krebs (41:10.124)
Okay.
Brian Krebs (41:14.838)
Yeah. Was it like, did you notice anything special about the way he did it? Was it like
low and slow? Was it, you know, you marinated him first or anything? No.
Tyler Preszler (41:23.116)
Nope. He cooked it hot and fast on the grill is what he did. So, yeah.
Brian Krebs (41:28.28)
Hot and fast. Interesting. Okay. Did it have a flavor that you can tell like this is not
Whitetails from Nebraska?
Tyler Preszler (41:37.422)
I mean, it's hard to say, you know, I mean, our whitetails here are pretty dang good.
They're corn fed. So I mean, it's hard to beat our whitetails here in Nebraska. I feel like
they taste amazing.
Brian Krebs (41:50.956)
Yeah, I mean, Midwest whitetails, I would say, like the baseline of wild game that you
compare everything to. Right? And mule deer, you're like, yeah, they take a little less
sage -ier than whitetails. And bull elk, yeah, they taste a little game -ier than a whitetail.
And then antelope, a of times, yeah, a little bit less, actually. I don't know. It seemed a
little bit milder. And then you can get good bad whitetails, bad whitetails, depending on
how you take care of the meat. But that's the common. And everyone's had it, so
everyone knows what you're talking about.
Yeah, if you're like, yeah, was a little more tender than a sheep. You're like, well, I have
no idea how tough a sheep is. So what are you trying to tell me? So that was good. And
then the caribou, was the caribou a lot more like an elk or a mule deer?
Tyler Preszler (42:35.608)
Caribou is an interesting one for me. They're good, they're tender, they're almost too
tender. It's very strange. To me, with the ones we shot in Alaska and this one in
Northwest Territory, I mean, when you cook them, it's just like straight mush. When
you're chewing them, it's like, they're so tender, they just fall apart in your mouth.
Brian Krebs (42:43.959)
Really.
Brian Krebs (43:00.034)
Really interesting.
Tyler Preszler (43:00.886)
Yeah, it's very strange. Yeah, I've never had meat like that. It tastes amazing, tastes
really good, but it's like, huh, it's very tender.
Brian Krebs (43:09.09)
You know, I've heard from a few people on the podcast and just, you know, hearing
other people talk about caribou hunting, that they are soft animals. anything you do, like
they lay down, right? You put a bat shot on them, they still tip over. You know, kind of
like antelope in a way. Like you shoot antelope, they tip over. I've heard people say that.
I don't know if it's true or not.
Tyler Preszler (43:28.426)
I don't know. I have the opposite feeling on caribou because the caribou I shot in Alaska
took about seven bullets for me and I ran out of ammo and I was hitting it every single
time. And same with the one up in the NWT. I put two or three rounds in it and I mean
on film you can see it hitting him just perfect and he just took every shot and just stood
there.
Brian Krebs (43:55.928)
What are you shooting full metal jackets here? Target shot? Yeah, big cover.
Tyler Preszler (43:58.83)
No, I'm shooting, well, I'm shooting seven mag and I think the first, yeah, first caribou
was shooting 162 grain ELBX. And I want to say, think last year I was shooting, I was
shooting 150 grain.
Brian Krebs (44:14.253)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (44:16.696)
Can't remember what I'm shooting now, but it.
Brian Krebs (44:18.558)
so it definitely, so maybe not true everywhere, but yeah, that was a couple of people's
insights. It's like, yeah, we didn't seem like caribou are just soft compared to elk. You
know, they're comparing it to elk. I mean, those elk just want to survive.
Tyler Preszler (44:29.56)
That's... That's fair.
Brian Krebs (44:32.652)
Yeah, interesting, interesting, interesting. So when it comes to hunting, I don't know, I
use the term trophy hunting too because it's easy, it's such a bad rap. And I feel like it's
not trophy hunting. would say it's maybe adventure hunting would be a different way to
describe it. Like it's a once in a lifetime adventure that you're going on, irregardless,
because you would still be like, this was an awesome hunt if you didn't bring anything
home, right? And so.
Tyler Preszler (44:59.79)
Absolutely.
Brian Krebs (45:00.972)
When it comes to some of these adventure hunts, would you rank the Alaska caribou
experience as a pretty approachable way to get into flying into some remote country,
hunting Alaska maybe compared to other things like sheep, moose that you've been on
the periphery of, talking to the outfitters and stuff. Is that one that's like, you're a DIY guy
and you're just looking to start hunting Alaska, would you recommend like, yeah.
Start with a caribou hunter. Start with a, what would you be your, like start with this
species.
Tyler Preszler (45:34.746)
I honestly, I even think of Spring Bear Hunt. I've done a Spring Bear Hunt in Canada as
well. That was a really good intro. Not as hardcore, not as maybe adventurous as a
Caribou Hunt, but reasonably priced. You travel with a weapon. It's a really good intro. I
mean, realistically, probably half the price of a Caribou Hunt right now. So I mean, that's
a really good intro.
Brian Krebs (45:42.775)
Okay.
Tyler Preszler (46:03.896)
But if a guy wants adventure, middle of nowhere, caribou is a really good way to do it,
for sure.
Brian Krebs (46:10.318)
Yeah, I'm a big advocate of kind of like experience stacking in a way. And it comes into I
think a lot more commonly with lower 48. Right? A lot of people want to get into the
Western hunting thing and they ask you like, I want to do this. I'm gonna do my first
Western elk hunt or my first Western hunts an archery elk hunt 14 days in the
backcountry. Like, oof, you are about to learn a lot of stuff really fast. Like drinking from
a firehose. Yeah, and I hate I don't know, I've still haven't found a way to
Tyler Preszler (46:32.864)
They'll make it about four days.
Brian Krebs (46:38.772)
elegantly handle that what you're talking about like I don't want to tell people I don't want
to poop on their ideas and their dreams but I also don't want to just be like you're gonna
have a blast good luck but I always recommend like if you start with archery or it's not
archery if you start with rifle antelope you're learning how to get out west you're learning
how to navigate roads you're learning how to camp you're learning some spot and stock
skills some glassing skills you know maybe longer in shooting skills you're learning a lot
of things that can apply on your next hunt
without having to learn everything. When you're doing like alpine mule deer or, you
know, rifle or archery elk, you're learning it all at once. And you don't have to, you don't
necessarily have to learn everything at once. You don't have to learn how to quarter and
pack out on a, you know, a thousand pound animal. I was just going to say it myself, a
650 pound elk, you can learn on 150 pound antelope. if it, and if it doesn't go well,
you're not killing yourself because it's only an antelope.
quarter, not an elk quarter. Those types of things. And then working your way up.
Archery antelope, I would say is very difficult. I would not recommend starting with that
unless you have a guide or private land or you're going with a group that knows what
they're doing. And the going with the group thing kind of applies to anything. If you've
got a group that's been going and they know what they're doing, then you can really
jump in anywhere. But if you're trying to figure it out for yourself, I'm a real big advocate
of starting on the first rung and then work your way up as you go, as you experience it.
Tyler Preszler (47:42.936)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (47:55.085)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (48:04.686)
Kind at your own pace. Like some people might be like, yeah, that was super easy. I'm
jumping two rungs up next time. Some people would be like, no, this is where I want to
be. I don't want to have to walk in 10 miles. I don't want to have to pack up. I don't want
to have to be concerned with where I'm getting water, you know, all these other things
that you might have to learn if you're going to be doing that 14 day back country archery
Elkhunt. And I just, I don't know. I feel like it's a better experience. First of all, I know the
punting is awesome. I mean, you do it yourself. Like it's type one fun the whole time. So.
Tyler Preszler (48:33.196)
Yup.
Brian Krebs (48:34.412)
That's what I was kind of looking for for the Alaska version of that. Like what's a good
one to start with? I think, yeah, spring bears seems really approachable to lots of game.
You're going to probably see a bear. Like that's number one. You go on a moose hunt,
you might not see a moose. And that can be discouraging for someone's first trip.
Tyler Preszler (48:47.968)
Exactly, yep.
Tyler Preszler (48:52.718)
Caribou can be the same way though. If you time the migration right, you do. If you
don't, you don't.
Brian Krebs (48:54.327)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (49:00.076)
I feel like that's such a funny one because it's been going on for like thousands of years
and it's the same, you know, same thing every year, maybe not the exact same slope or
the exact. And I feel like, you know, the Native Americans probably had this dialed to a
T because they lived on it. And then for us, we're still with all the technology and
resources and experience we have, we're still like, yep, missed it. Sorry. You know what
I mean? Like we still don't know when it's going to be.
Tyler Preszler (49:30.35)
That is so true. mean, even when we were up there, mean, it's, caribou hunts are a
quick five days of hunting, you know, a day of travel on the front end, day of travel the
back end, but it's five days of hunting. I mean, time goes quick, you know, and if they're
not moving or if it's bad weather, it's hit and miss, you know, they don't always migrate
in one direction, you know, we saw them go in every direction, know, majority were
heading.
Brian Krebs (49:51.395)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (49:58.922)
hit you know, head and it seemed like south, but I mean, every once in a while they're
going the other way. So there's really no rhyme or reason to felt like to what the heck
they were doing.
Brian Krebs (50:08.736)
Yeah. And were you camping, like spike camping, backpack hunting, or were you like
doing more of a base camp, you know, in the truck every day, checking out a spot?
Tyler Preszler (50:20.536)
For a caribou. So we, so we did a drop camp. they, they, we've, flew us in on a remote
lake and we were, I don't know how many miles away from town, but we were a long
ways out, but we did, we decided to do a drop camp, you know, where we use their
gear, not our own. just logistics of getting, you know, three guys gear up to Alaska.
that's a lot of gear.
Brian Krebs (50:21.558)
Yeah, Alaska caribou.
Brian Krebs (50:27.073)
Okay.
Brian Krebs (50:48.248)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (50:50.092)
You know, we already had a lot of gear. I mean, to not have to worry about tent, stove,
food, any of that stuff was huge. So all we had to show up was our weapon, our
sleeping pad, and our actual clothing was huge.
Brian Krebs (51:05.899)
they had everything else like sleeping bag, cot.
Tyler Preszler (51:08.654)
We had a new sleeping bag, but they had the cots.
Brian Krebs (51:11.488)
Okay, yeah, that would be big. Did they have the bear fence?
Tyler Preszler (51:13.678)
Which it's nice. They did not have a bear fence. I wish we would have had a bear fence.
yeah. yeah. We lost about half our caribou meat to bears. We had one come into camp
mill the night. we had an extra gear tent that we had and he tore right into it. Mill of the
night, 20 yards from where we were sleeping. Yeah. yeah. Yeah. yeah. yeah. yeah.
Brian Krebs (51:18.68)
Did you have bears in camp?
Brian Krebs (51:37.474)
Did you wake up when it was happening? Okay, because they're pretty loud. Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (51:43.79)
I came home with some PTSD after that trip. So when you hear...
Brian Krebs (51:47.214)
Well, I assume you had spray, right? Did you have?
Tyler Preszler (51:51.904)
No, we had pistols and we had our rifles. We probably legally could have killed that
bear, but by the time we got out there, he was gone, which he was back on our meat
pile at that point.
Brian Krebs (51:56.215)
Brian Krebs (52:06.946)
you tried to get up and haze them off and be like, hey, get out of here. Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (52:09.026)
We were going to, yeah, but by the time we got out there, he was back on the meat pile.
Brian Krebs (52:14.488)
Did you have food in that tent? Any food items?
Tyler Preszler (52:17.326)
We had our bloody backpacks in there. So that's probably what it was. Which is weird.
He goes after a bloody backpack while we have two, three, actually three dead caribou
at the time, 75 yards from that tent.
Brian Krebs (52:21.164)
I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Krebs (52:27.541)
Amen.
Brian Krebs (52:32.608)
When we hunt grizzly country, we don't even leave toothpaste in our tents.
Tyler Preszler (52:36.962)
Yeah. Yup.
Brian Krebs (52:38.934)
which that's that's our that's our I mean nothing nothing edible.
Tyler Preszler (52:43.763)
But it's like I smell more ripe than that toothpaste does. Yeah, after a trip like that.
Brian Krebs (52:47.426)
Yeah, but you smelled like danger, not food to him. You know what mean?
Tyler Preszler (52:52.226)
Yeah, Grizzlies are a little different than those Arctic bears though too.
Brian Krebs (52:58.956)
Yeah, I'm sure the brown bears are like, yeah, I don't know. But that's still not like, I've
eaten this thing every day. I know this is food. They're like, I don't know that. And I think
most wild animals default on caution when they come to new things, unless it's a sow
with cubs, then they default to kill it. But a solo bear smells something new, like a
human it hasn't smelt in a few years. I think they default to caution, not necessarily
afraid, but they're not like coming right into each year because they don't.
Tyler Preszler (53:15.342)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Krebs (53:27.648)
I really know what that is. But yeah, no, that's interesting. Yeah, would, I don't know. I
want to do Alaska someday. There's a lot to learn. A lot of things to pick up on before I
get there.
Tyler Preszler (53:39.475)
just do it. Just book it and figure it out. I'm telling you, that's what we did.
Brian Krebs (53:43.212)
That's Cody Rich. We just had Cody Rich on the podcast. He's like booked a hunt and
then figure out how to pay for it.
Tyler Preszler (53:46.67)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a lot of these guys are willing to work with you, too. You know, it's
like, hey, I can only afford to put this down. You know, let's just figure it out. lot of guys,
they're willing to do it. You know, you don't. nice thing is a lot of them. The standard
tends to be about 50 percent of the hunt is a lot of them ask for, you know, every outfit's
different. But I mean, when you can plan a couple of years out, it makes it a whole lot
easier to, you know, to swallow.
Brian Krebs (53:57.068)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (54:13.978)
for sure.
Tyler Preszler (54:14.99)
when it comes to pan, so.
Brian Krebs (54:17.006)
for sure, for sure. One of the things I want to talk to you before we end the podcast, so
you are on a quest for your North American super 10. So what is, there's a lot of
different, you know, there's the big game slam, a turkey slam, a sheep slam, the grand
slam. What's the super 10? I don't know if I've heard that one explained yet.
Tyler Preszler (54:27.19)
I am.
Tyler Preszler (54:39.854)
Yeah, yeah. ultimately I would love to do the North American slam, you know, but the,
the, the, it, it fluctuates 28, 29, depending. I think there's one caribou that you can't
legally hunt anymore, but so yeah, growing up, I grew, I grew up reading Chuck Adams,
know, Chuck Adams, super slam book, you know, I think, I think I have it on the
bookshelf back here still, you know, and that's what I grew up.
Brian Krebs (54:45.902)
Like the big game Grand Slam, 29 animals or 31 animals. Yeah.
Brian Krebs (55:01.496)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (55:08.654)
reading, you know, I'd love to do it, do that, but realistically, financially, there's no way I
can do it, you know, do I really want to kill a polar bear? No, I don't, you know, I can't
bring that trophy home. You can't import that to the US. It's like, I'm going for adventure,
you know, so instead of doing all 29, the big 10, so it's the North American big 10.
Brian Krebs (55:20.451)
Right.
Tyler Preszler (55:36.202)
essentially one animal from each species, you know. So
Brian Krebs (55:39.626)
Okay, so how does the Servids work out then?
Tyler Preszler (55:44.742)
geez. Well, so it's essentially it's one of the bears, one cat. Sorry, I'm looking at my
cheat sheet here. One deer, one elk, one caribou, one moose, either a bison or a
muskox. Give you one or the other. A mountain goat, an antelope, and then one of the
sheep. So.
Brian Krebs (56:03.49)
Okay.
Brian Krebs (56:07.914)
Okay, so the cervids, it's not like you shoot a whitetail doe and it counts for all of your,
you know, elk, moose and mule deer antelope.
Tyler Preszler (56:15.168)
No. Yep. So it's, it's one for me from each category of the big, of the super slam. Yep.
Yep.
Brian Krebs (56:20.342)
Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Yes, you don't have to do like a Rosie and a Rocky Mountain elk.
You don't have to do a Shire -os and a Yukon or a Canadian. All four sheep. The sheep
wanted to be the part. Sheep would be definitely hard. The muskox bison isn't easy.
There's not a slam dunk there. Moose can be challenging. mean, you get out, there's
opportunities, but it's still not guarantees. You know, the only one that sounds like a
guarantee on the list is the deer and the antelope. Like you can do that every year.
Tyler Preszler (56:26.114)
Nope. Yep. Yep. Now if you want super slam, it's all of them.
Tyler Preszler (56:48.258)
Yeah. Deer, antelope, elk, I mean, those are all very manageable, you know, as far as
getting.
Brian Krebs (56:53.774)
Yeah, and so you're seven out of the 10 you got right now. So I'm going to try to guess.
Mountain goat, the muskox bison.
Tyler Preszler (56:57.654)
I'm seven out of the ten. Yep, seven.
Brian Krebs (57:07.746)
mountain lion. Are those the three?
Tyler Preszler (57:10.496)
You got the muskox bison. I don't have one of those. I don't have my moose. I have
killed a mountain goat.
Brian Krebs (57:18.772)
you did? Get him out and go.
Tyler Preszler (57:19.68)
I did. I drew a tag when I was still a Colorado resident. I, well, I, yes, yeah, I did.
Brian Krebs (57:23.957)
you got lucky.
Brian Krebs (57:28.546)
That's awesome. love drawing tags like that. I mean, I would just say lucky because a
lot of people apply their whole life and never draw. And I love when people are like,
yeah, I drew this on the random side of zero. You probably, what is it, like three points
and then it becomes random?
Tyler Preszler (57:45.345)
Yeah, it's essentially it's so three points gets you into the draw. And then the more
bonus points you get, think you essentially get a little bit extra odds. Your name goes in
the hat, I think an extra couple of times or something like that.
Brian Krebs (57:55.148)
Right. But you're basically not going to draw until three.
Tyler Preszler (58:00.182)
Yeah, know, guarantee you won't draw until at least three. Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Krebs (58:03.094)
Yeah, awesome. the moose, the, I don't know, what are we calling those? The the wild
bovines. And then what's the third one?
Tyler Preszler (58:12.544)
Yeah, I guess.
So I'm missing moose. I'm bison or muskox and a mountain lion. I don't have a
mountain lion yet. Yep.
Brian Krebs (58:21.824)
Okay, so was I was got the mountain lion. I swapped out the I just was like mountain
goat seems like a once in a lifetime thing as well. So I assumed he didn't have that one.
yeah, fair guess. Well, you've whittled it down to a manageable list. I think like a
mountain lion is approachable, especially like you just got to find probably the right
resources there. You know, the right help guys, you know, whether you do dogs or not.
But, you know, it's not like the bison muskox one that one might need some planning.
Tyler Preszler (58:30.744)
That's a fair guess.
Tyler Preszler (58:39.139)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (58:51.15)
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, you could you could go and do a ranch bowl. I think they
count some ranch bison, but it's like, again, what am I doing this for? Am I trying to
check a box here, which ultimately I kind of am. But I'm after this for adventure. You
know, it's like, screw it. I want to go shoot a muskox in negative 40 degree weather and
just be miserable.
Brian Krebs (58:58.53)
That's not the spirit.
Brian Krebs (59:06.038)
Yeah. Right.
Brian Krebs (59:14.51)
Yeah, I've thought about doing like a ranch bison hunt just for like basically like a
grocery trip. Right? Like we're out of meat. We did not shoot very many animals this
year. Like we could go do spend 1500 bucks and go shoot a cow bison on a ranch,
which isn't super cool, but it'd be more fun than going to a meat locker and buying
$1500 worth of beef.
Tyler Preszler (59:33.368)
Yeah, yeah. You better buy a couple more freezers if you're going to do that. You might
be okay then.
Brian Krebs (59:38.978)
I've got three.
Then they're big. got a full like 20 cubic upright. got like a 21 cubic foot chest freezer.
Yeah. I mean, it's just full size. It's not that big, but yeah. And then I got the kitchen half,
you know, the bottom freezer in the kitchen half, and I got the freezer portion of my beer
fridge in the garage. So that's how I count three. But not the freezer half. Like the
freezer top part, it's got tallow in it right now actually for mixing grind in.
Tyler Preszler (59:47.818)
cheese.
Tyler Preszler (01:00:01.736)
That's reserved for beer though.
Yeah, that's fair.
Brian Krebs (01:00:12.098)
Which I should probably look at how old that stuff is. I don't know how long Talo lasts in
the freezer, but.
Tyler Preszler (01:00:17.944)
Are you using beef or pork?
Brian Krebs (01:00:19.854)
I've done both. This is beef usually beef with our ground meat for like tacos and
spaghetti and stuff and then I'll use pork for if I'm making like snack sticks or Sprats or
something like that I'll buy pork butts and cut them up and grind them myself. It seems
the cheapest way to do it
Tyler Preszler (01:00:36.216)
Yeah, nice.
Brian Krebs (01:00:37.676)
Yeah, we got a free hookup for the beef tallow. So that works out pretty well. Where we
had it, might not anymore. My dad retired, so we might have lost our connection.
Tyler Preszler (01:00:48.568)
Check out your local grocery store here. They'll give that crap away,
Brian Krebs (01:00:52.876)
Yeah, and I have a buddy that has a jerky company, Rowan. I think it's Rowan
Smokehouse. He makes all this jerky from flank steaks. And so he trims off all the fat
and he was selling me the fat for a buck a piece or a buck a pound, which isn't terrible. I
could probably work them down a little bit. I just transferred it, bought it from him for a
buck a pound, drove it back home to Fargo when I was living in North Dakota and sold it
for a buck a pound. That was just a meal.
Tyler Preszler (01:01:00.91)
So nice.
Tyler Preszler (01:01:20.654)
That's awesome. Yeah, not even making money off it.
Brian Krebs (01:01:22.594)
Important fat. No, I was already going for a work trip. just, somebody wanted it. I just
picked it up for him. But you know, that's awesome, man. You got a lot of adventures
under your belt and you're still a young guy. What's next on the radar? You did mention
you got a little one at home. So is it kind of slowing down and spacing out a little bit
now? Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (01:01:43.918)
A little bit, you know, mean, we have a 20 month old and we're expecting another one
here this, this, right around Christmas time. So life's definitely changing, you know, but
luckily my wife is very understanding. She gets it. You know, I made it very clear early
on, like, Hey, this is what I like to do. You know, so she, she, she supports it. She gets
it. She understands. So it works out pretty well for us, but, but yeah.
Brian Krebs (01:01:53.357)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (01:02:08.694)
Has she gotten the bug at all? To, to, okay.
Tyler Preszler (01:02:11.308)
Not really. She shot a couple turkeys and she shot a buck out at the farm here a few
years back. she, not really, which is fine. I'm not going to push her. So it's got to be her
idea.
Brian Krebs (01:02:23.746)
Yeah, well, it is a good thing, but my wife is getting the buck. She likes hunting. We're
doing antelope this year. She shot a buck on our farm with her bow last year. She's
talking about elk hunting. so where it becomes a problem is on these venture hunts, it's
not like, I afford to go shoot a sheep? It's can we afford to do two sheep? Or can we
afford to do two moose?
Tyler Preszler (01:02:48.824)
Two.
Brian Krebs (01:02:52.11)
That's where it becomes a kicker and why I'm becoming a very fast advocate for
learning how to do DIY Alaska versus saving up for the moose take. Because man, if
we were going to do two of them, it'd probably take years. And by then, it's probably
another $15 ,000, $20 ,000 a piece to get, you know what I mean, for doing the outfit.
And you're still not guaranteed anything. Nothing is guaranteed hunting. Just because
an outfitter's got a 99 % shot opportunity doesn't mean it's guaranteed you're going to
get one.
Tyler Preszler (01:02:54.53)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (01:03:19.168)
So yeah, I just think if you can do DIY for a couple thousand bucks a pop and you can
do that every other year, every three years or whatever, I think it's just a better, a better
opportunity over the course of a lifetime to have some good memories. Yeah. So that's
kind of where I land on it. maybe I'm just cheap.
Tyler Preszler (01:03:33.774)
Absolutely.
Tyler Preszler (01:03:40.106)
No, no, it's smart. as far as next, you know, say as far as the next big trip, sorry to
interrupt you there. I do have a Kodiak trip lined up for next year. heading up to back
heading back to Kodiak for black tail next year. So
Brian Krebs (01:03:43.14)
Awesome. Well, I appreciate. yeah.
Brian Krebs (01:03:56.483)
Ooh, that'll be fun. Definitely want to bring your electric fence for that one.
Tyler Preszler (01:04:00.46)
Well, we were, staying on a boat. that's nice. So sleep on sleep on a boat at night. So,
yeah.
Brian Krebs (01:04:03.334)
yeah, sleep on the boat. Yeah, I don't have to worry about the bears. Yeah, I suppose
you could do that and fly in Alaska, just like bring an anchor and go sleep on your raft
out in the lake they dropped you off on.
Tyler Preszler (01:04:15.85)
I guess you could, yeah. mean, those bears do swim, They do, but not.
Brian Krebs (01:04:20.16)
Yeah, that probably had not quite as much. Yeah. And then if they pop, Mary, yeah,
they would for sure pop your ass. First thing they would do. And then, yeah, now you're
You latch onto the bear to get home. Wow.
Tyler Preszler (01:04:28.622)
Go.
Tyler Preszler (01:04:34.242)
that sounds fun.
Brian Krebs (01:04:37.411)
You have a different definition of fun, I think. I don't know if I'm ready to bear back bronc
ride a grizzly bear across a lake.
Tyler Preszler (01:04:39.242)
Ha ha!
Tyler Preszler (01:04:47.832)
Yeah, I'm going to pass on that one.
Brian Krebs (01:04:49.496)
So awesome. Well, I appreciate you coming on the podcast today, Tyler. I know we're
kind of eating up on an hour already. But man, a lot of cool adventures you've been on.
I'm excited to see what the next ones come on with. And we'll have to get you back on
when you get your 10th one. You'll have to have a... We'll figure something out,
something special. We'll have to find a way to get them all in like the same shot.
Tyler Preszler (01:05:07.544)
Yeah, man. Sounds great. It's going to
Tyler Preszler (01:05:14.007)
Yeah, it's gonna be a few years still with the ones I got left. So it's getting getting
spendy.
Brian Krebs (01:05:18.422)
Yeah, there's I don't think they're handing out Bison tags left and right either.
Tyler Preszler (01:05:22.904)
Nope. Nope. They're not. So.
Brian Krebs (01:05:25.058)
You doing the Henry mountains Utah application for one or anything local or.
Tyler Preszler (01:05:29.612)
Yeah, I apply for everything that I can, know, South, South Dakota, you know, South
Dakota, all the applications that I can. No, they do. I believe they do have a non
resident, for, for, was it Custer Custer state park, I believe.
Brian Krebs (01:05:37.038)
I thought that was resident only, no?
Brian Krebs (01:05:42.392)
Okay.
Brian Krebs (01:05:46.7)
Okay, I know Wyoming's got one, the non -resident prices on that, it's probably almost
cheaper to fly to the Yukon and shoot a musk ox.
Tyler Preszler (01:05:54.922)
It used to be a lot easier to draw them too, so a lot's changed.
Brian Krebs (01:05:57.422)
Now it's like six, I think it's like 6 ,000 bucks just for the tag in Wyoming for a non -
resident. Yeah. Yeah. It was like 80 to one, think resident to non -resident pricing. was
pretty wild.
Tyler Preszler (01:06:02.286)
Wow.
Tyler Preszler (01:06:11.054)
Well, Wyoming just gone off the rockers in general. So I mean, look what they did for elk
and antelope, you know, a special antelope tag is like what? Like two grand almost. So
it's like what? 1700 bucks.
Brian Krebs (01:06:21.356)
Yeah, I've never done the special tags. Just not worth it to me.
Tyler Preszler (01:06:28.428)
I don't know. It intrigues me because I think they're going to get a whole lot easier to
draw at that price tag.
Brian Krebs (01:06:34.382)
I know if people may I well easier for sure, but it seems like there's still people out there
with money to blow and yeah, I don't know I'll just hunt somewhere else for a year You
know like I we do all the states so I've always I've got like 97 points I think across the
West you probably got a whole mit full too. Yeah Well, Utah some of these states like
Utah like it's you buy your hunting license and then it's ten bucks a points You might as
well buy all of the points right so you're getting eight a year
Tyler Preszler (01:06:36.866)
Yeah.
Tyler Preszler (01:06:44.696)
That's fair.
Tyler Preszler (01:06:51.818)
Holy cow.
Tyler Preszler (01:07:00.814)
Yeah. Yep.
Brian Krebs (01:07:04.952)
for a few years that adds up pretty fast and you know there's a few states like that so
but yeah no.
Tyler Preszler (01:07:07.32)
Yeah.
Yeah. Well, I'm, sitting on like 19 points for sheep and moose in Colorado. So it's like,
I'm.
Brian Krebs (01:07:16.098)
Jesus, you just started applying when you were in the baby crocker or what?
Tyler Preszler (01:07:20.75)
I'm a little older than I look, but I've been applying since high school. So I convinced my
parents to, I'm like, hey, I want to do this. Can we apply? Sure.
Brian Krebs (01:07:23.936)
You
Brian Krebs (01:07:27.506)
wow.
Brian Krebs (01:07:32.748)
Yeah, I want my birthday present to be a car out of Moose Point. That would be a cool
hunt. That would be a cool hunt. That'd be a state that would be fun. I've seen some big
bulls in the Rocky Mountains.
Tyler Preszler (01:07:36.526)
Yeah. Yeah. I think it was 10 bucks as a resident. yeah.
Tyler Preszler (01:07:46.339)
a little something to think about if you want to shoot them. I don't dare say this, but if you
look at the odds on a cow moose, they're pretty reasonable in Colorado. You you said
your wife's up.
Brian Krebs (01:07:58.123)
really? Well I don't even have a point. Now the point, they got so expensive with the
points that it's like I don't even start it now, you know?
Tyler Preszler (01:08:02.296)
They are.
Also, here's the thing, so you don't have points, what you could do, you could probably
draw a cow moose tag with three or four points.
Brian Krebs (01:08:11.554)
Really? Interesting. have to keep that in mind.
Tyler Preszler (01:08:13.578)
Yep, now it's expensive. It's still about three grand to go for a cow moose. But hey, if
you want to shoot a moose, it can be done. And I guarantee I hate to say guarantee, but
I bet you could you could you could be hunting them in five.
Brian Krebs (01:08:21.239)
Yeah.
Brian Krebs (01:08:26.4)
If you work hard enough, a lot of times, yeah, if you work hard enough, there's usually a
good opportunity. I would probably for that price, I'd probably just go a little bit more and
do like a Canada.
Tyler Preszler (01:08:36.216)
That's insuitable.
Brian Krebs (01:08:37.186)
The farther east you go in Canada, the more lower the prices go. It's basically like a
zero per territory. If you're going British Columbia, it's pretty expensive. If you go like
Eastern Ontario, it gets pretty reasonable.
Tyler Preszler (01:08:46.072)
That's a good point.
Tyler Preszler (01:08:53.42)
Yeah. Yeah. Well, when you add that Alaska Yukon in front of moose, that's, that's
yeah, exactly. Yup.
Brian Krebs (01:08:58.06)
Yeah, that's another zero.
Yeah, that would be awesome. I would love that. My bank account would not. So maybe
one day we'll see how many people like and follow the podcast. Maybe eventually we
can do a podcast hunt there. We'll bring on a listener like Randy Newberg does with his
elk hunt. It'd be like enter to win a Yukon moose hunt. That would be pretty cool. That'd
be crazy. Imagine winning a Yukon moose hunt. Yeah. Got a dream.
Tyler Preszler (01:09:06.836)
Nope. Nope.
Tyler Preszler (01:09:21.614)
That's awesome.
Tyler Preszler (01:09:28.638)
Got a dream, right? Got a dream.
Brian Krebs (01:09:31.764)
Awesome. Well, I appreciate you being here, Tyler. Thank you for sharing all of your
recent hunts and some of the crazy adventures you've been on. And thank you for
listening, folks.
Boom. Just like that.
