Show Notes
In this episode, I talk with Greg Strunak. Greg is a bowhunter who resides in western PA. Greg hunts in both Pennsylvania and Ohio. He has recently become obsessed with managing his family's small farm for deer hunting. Greg and I talk about some of the management practices that he implements on his small family farm to keep deer on his property. Greg focuses on creating bedding areas, travel corridors and food plots. He has implemented a select cut to improve the habitat in the wooded portion of their property, and he talks about the impact that had on the deer movement. He also uses a tractor to maintain these travel corridors in the off season. Greg emphasizes the importance of timing and waiting for the right weather conditions before hunting the prime locations on his farm. They talk about the types of seeds they use, the benefits of creating bedding areas, and the impact of acorn crops on day time deer activity on food plot sites. They also share their archery rituals and preparations for hunting season. Overall, they emphasize the importance of creating diverse habitats and practicing good shot placement. Thanks for listening!
Show Transcript
Kevin Creeley (00:01.804)
Greg, how you doing?
Greg Strunak (00:03.762)
Doing good, doing good. Just inching closer to hunting season, so always exciting.
Kevin Creeley (00:11.276)
Yeah, no doubt, man. You're in Central PA, is that correct?
Greg Strunak (00:15.379)
Yes, central slash western PA.
Kevin Creeley (00:18.41)
Okay, cool. Right on. Why don't you guys fire up and PA for deer season?
Greg Strunak (00:23.254)
Typically, there's kind of different units that have different opening seasons, but the areas I hunt, it's typically the worst first weekend of October is opening day. And some parts, there's a couple of units where they have like an early season. It's like mid September, but I don't really hunt that even anymore. So I'm typically the first week of October.
Kevin Creeley (00:46.72)
Yeah, it's same here in Virginia. This year specifically, I'm going to be traveling a little bit further South. I'll be starting in North Carolina. So I'll be starting in September. So actually September 7th will be my opener this year, technically, but usually I don't start until the first Saturday of October. Do you guys start with archery? I assume, right? PA?
Greg Strunak (01:06.45)
Yes, Archer. Archery starts October and then. And gun season doesn't fire off till Thanksgiving weekend.
Kevin Creeley (01:17.098)
Okay, do you guys get like a muzzleloader a season or anything like that a late and early or anything like that?
Greg Strunak (01:21.818)
Yeah, there is a three -day muzzle odor season in the middle of October. It's go only, like an antlerless three -day weekend. Also, archery bear starts the middle of October as well.
Kevin Creeley (01:31.872)
Okay, interesting.
Kevin Creeley (01:39.38)
Okay, interesting. So for us, it's
Greg Strunak (01:40.946)
which I wish it was started earlier, but it doesn't.
Kevin Creeley (01:44.319)
You like to bear hunt?
Greg Strunak (01:46.526)
it's been on my bucket list of things to get, I have them on my family farm, but they're just, they're tough to hunt. They, from my experience, it seems, I mean, when you don't, you're only hunting a small track, like not a small track, but we have 120 acres, but for a bear, like, you know, they don't live on that 120 acres, you know, they, they're roamers. So it's hard to. And, know, pinpoint him.
Kevin Creeley (02:05.814)
Okay.
Greg Strunak (02:16.53)
You know, it's like when they're on the property, they're on the property, but then they might be gone for two weeks. But yeah, it's it's on my bucket list and I threw I've I actually have seen them. In the stand in the first two weeks of October before the season came in and I, know, obviously had to pass because it wasn't quite in season yet. But. Yeah, I just feel like if they open the season up two weeks earlier, I probably could have.
shot a bear with a bow, which would make it cool.
Kevin Creeley (02:49.92)
Yeah, we, our bear season and our deer season. we start with archery and our bear and deer season comes in about the same time. Like within a couple of days, I think, don't quote me on that. if you're a Virginia hunter and you're like, you're getting that all wrong. I'm sorry. don't bear hunt. It's just me personally. I've never had the inclination to harvest a bear. It's not something I'm super duper interested in, at least at this point in my hunting career. and where I hunt it's bear and deer. come in about the same time and then bear goes out for a short period of time.
And that's about in the first week of November. And that's when our black powder season comes in, which is two weeks. And unlike you, it's, not an antlerless season. It's just two weeks of muzzleloader season for open, you know, antler, antlered or antlerless. then, following that we go straight into firearm season and then it's the wild west. Cause here in Virginia, it's, it's, it's dog country. So we, we run, we run hounds. I don't personally do that. I used to growing up like as a teenager and stuff, but yeah, it's a,
Greg Strunak (03:42.098)
Really
Beer?
Kevin Creeley (03:48.94)
ton of hound hunting around where I'm at.
Greg Strunak (03:51.836)
interesting. You're saying that you can run out for deer.
Kevin Creeley (03:53.386)
Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You run Hounds for Deer and it's a very, very rich rooted culture in this area.
Greg Strunak (04:02.75)
It's just something that's been around for probably forever.
Kevin Creeley (04:05.858)
It longed. Yeah. it's, I mean, there's, I completely making these numbers up, but if I had to guess, I would say in my area that I hunt or at least where I least land and where I hunt most of my deer season, especially like around the rut timeframe, which is around the time that the dog season comes in. I would dare to say that probably 70 % of deer hunters in that area.
I mean, there's not a lot of people to just still hunt. Certainly not a lot of people to just bow hunt.
Greg Strunak (04:41.022)
I never knew that, that is wild.
Kevin Creeley (04:44.246)
Yeah, no, it's really rich, from Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, most of the South. mean, running deer with dogs is a huge cultural thing, man. And, it, for me, it, it really kind of turns my season in a different direction. this year I'm going to travel up North around that timeframe and kind of get away from that. But, it definitely puts a, an absolute ridiculous amount of pressure on the woods. mean, packs of dogs running through and yeah, and you know, dogs don't know property lines. So they're just.
Greg Strunak (05:09.736)
can imagine.
Kevin Creeley (05:13.922)
They're just running wild.
Greg Strunak (05:14.214)
Right, they get on a deer, they're gone.
Kevin Creeley (05:17.09)
Absolutely. Yeah. And, some dog clubs, there's a lot, it's a lot of hunting clubs, right? It's like, big organizations of people, 30 to a hundred people that'll lease numerous tracks of land. And then they'll dog hunt those lands. A lot of these clubs won't even allow you to still hunt. Like you'll pay a membership that's, you know, between 800 to $2 ,000 annually or whatever. And they won't even allow you to still hunt. Like you can't go get in the stand and bow hunt during October or whatever. Like you pay your membership and you, hunt.
as a group with dogs and that's, that's it. You know, it's really, it's kind of interesting. Yeah.
Greg Strunak (05:51.1)
insane. Yeah, it's just, I guess it's a totally different culture of hunting.
Kevin Creeley (05:58.066)
yeah, absolutely. I did a lot of it when I was in my teen years, when I was kind of newer into the hunting world and I had a lot of buddies that did it and they brought me along and I per, I just thought that was, you know, just kind of how you deer hunted. Cause I didn't have a ton of prior experience deer hunting. wasn't raised in a hunting family. I was kind of self -taught.
Greg Strunak (06:17.436)
All right.
Kevin Creeley (06:18.434)
Yeah, that's how I killed my first year, man. was running hounds. It was a spike block and shot him with a 12 gauge running about 40 miles an hour.
Greg Strunak (06:27.068)
I mean, do they the dogs just run the deer till they get tired? And then or or how do you like? mean, I know if like if you're using dogs to hunt like coons or a bear like they'll trio or something and then that's typically when you shoot them. So if you're running deer with dogs with the deer, how does that work? Or do you get your shot?
Kevin Creeley (06:47.33)
Okay, so I'll paint you a picture. So if you had like, let's call it a, I don't know, let's call it a 400 acre pine thicket that's like four years old, right? And it's a, that's way, let's just say the property is a square, okay? And then you've got like pieces of timber that are open on the edges of there and then like creeks throughout and stuff like small openings anywhere that you would expect the deer to escape that bedding area, right? You'll line people up.
you know, safely, obviously, so we're not shooting at each other, but they will, they will line people up, on all of the exit routes of that bedding area. And then they'll drop dogs on the North corner. They'll drop dogs on the South corner. They'll drop dogs from the East, from the West, whatever. And the dogs will get on the track of deer, just like, you know, like a blood dog will. And then once they jump a deer, they'll start barking and howling going crazy. And they push these dogs all through these pine thickets.
And then as the deer go to escape, you're just shooting them running, trying to leave the block basically.
Greg Strunak (07:49.219)
It sounds a lot like doing big gear drives with people except with dogs.
Kevin Creeley (07:55.082)
It's yeah, it's basically rabbit haunting if you've ever rabbit haunted. It's
Greg Strunak (07:57.16)
The dogs are probably a little bit more efficient. And people are just walking through the woods.
Kevin Creeley (08:00.605)
No doubt. Yeah.
Yeah, no doubt. I mean, you'll apply like the same human tactic where like, this is a known bedding area. know there's deer in here, right? But then the dog will know exactly where that deer is because he'll sniff the deer out, get on the track of it, and then chase that deer out of that bedding area to an escape route where there's a person waiting with a 12 gauge and buckshot. yeah, it's interesting. I haven't done it in years. I kind of got turned off to it. Most dog hunting clubs, they don't practice much management.
Greg Strunak (08:13.767)
Right.
Kevin Creeley (08:33.324)
There's some safety concerns with some of the dog hunting clubs and it's just, I don't know. It's just not what I'm interested in. For me, like I take off a set amount of time a year and I don't want my chances of success being weighed on basically luck that a dog is going to run a nice buck by me. know what I mean? I'd much rather bet. Yeah. I'd much rather bet on myself that I can find and figure out deer. Plus it's just, I mean, it's just way more fun watching deer be deer.
Greg Strunak (08:54.076)
Yeah, I like it.
Kevin Creeley (09:02.358)
getting immersed in their habitat. yeah. So like being like a bow hunter, a still hunter, a guy that focuses on sign and stuff like that in my area is a little bit of an anomaly because there's just so much dog hunting stuff.
Greg Strunak (09:17.65)
Yeah, right. It'd be hard to do any scouting or homework essentially, because you could find some good sign, then that day they blow that whole area out with dogs and that buck could be a miles away.
Kevin Creeley (09:37.142)
Yeah, luckily it doesn't come in until November 18th. So kind of when the rut for our area is starting to like, it's, on the decline at that point. So, you get all of October that early season to hunt them on food source patterns, bed to feed, and then you get the pre -rut time to bow hunt. And then there's the first two weeks of November, which for us traditionally is muzzleloader season. And that's kind of the most action packed for most folks. You know, that's the rut. Well, most people, or at least let me say what for most
folks would consider the quote unquote rut, right? Like the chasing phase of the rut. and that's, know, when you're going to see the most daylight activity on mature bucks and stuff like that for most people. And, after that, the dog season comes in and then I will either travel or hunt a large track of public ground that doesn't allow dog hunting. And that's kind of how I adapt to it.
Greg Strunak (10:29.618)
kind of the same strategy I somewhat have is I on my family farm is, you know, I hunt the early season there and then by the time gun season rolls around, I'm not to be because it's just too much pressure. It's just too hard to hunt at that point, you know, with the deer, the pressure of gun hunting and I usually get a lot of state, you know, once gun season rolls in. Or actually, I usually hunt the home farm.
in October and then by November I'm usually on Amstutz.
Kevin Creeley (11:05.204)
Yeah, the pressure in Pennsylvania is pretty serious, isn't it?
Greg Strunak (11:10.812)
Yeah, it's, not that I mean, it's a, it's a culture thing, you know, it's, it's always been, your camps, know, a bunch of people go up for opening day, I got to see you then, and everybody goes out and hunts push drives on. And, that's just been the culture up there for, years. And I was, it's never been, a management type thing. It's just been to go out and hunt.
And if you see a buck, you shoot it type of thing. So that's kind of the culture around there. I've been fortunate enough to actually one of my neighbors who just recently purchased a farm next door to mine. He's a big management guy. between me and him, we've really
been able to turn things around and are seeing really good results as far as the management side goes.
Kevin Creeley (12:14.316)
Right on. Before we get too much into the meat and potatoes of management and stuff like that, why don't you just for the listeners kind of introduce yourself, what you're about, where you're from, how long you've been hunting and stuff like that.
Greg Strunak (12:26.922)
Sure, my name is Greg Strunek. I'm based out of Western PA. I've been hunting my whole life pretty much. I've in archery for probably the last seven years. Over the years, it's become a bigger and bigger passion of mine. And on top of that, it's snowballed into management and just
The love for archery itself, the bows, the setups, and just everything involved with it.
Kevin Creeley (13:03.17)
Right on dude, yeah. So what kind of habitat management, I know you, so actually let me start with this. You said you have 120 acre family farm. Do you hunt primarily that through most of the deer season in Pennsylvania or do you hunt public ground as well?
Greg Strunak (13:20.97)
so I'll just say, like, as, of last year, where I'm at now, I pretty much. Primarily hunt my P a farm in October. And I don't really do any other. Venturing it's just a time thing I spend enough enough time. You know, managing see the thing is, like, when you get into management, it just takes up so much time.
It's not like a public land. have a lot more time to like go check things out, but it's, feel like when you're trying to do the management thing, you're always doing stuff and it just takes up so much time. So I primarily hunt the family farm in October and that's my main focus. Typically, and I don't hunt, I base my hunts around the weather at this point. So I will not.
go out and hunt, to hunt. It's gotta be the right wind, it's gotta be on a cool front. And if it's not that, I'll just sit it out and wait. Because I don't like going in there and getting my scent everywhere, because the deer catch on. Eventually they're gonna cross your track and they start getting sketchy. So I like to wait for the right weather, the right wind, the right conditions, and that's when I go in.
Kevin Creeley (14:30.336)
Gotcha.
Kevin Creeley (14:51.223)
Yeah, I'm a full blown opposite in the way that I'm a, I'm an absolute addict, right? I during the fall, I take a ton of time off. I'm fortunate with my career that I've chosen. I get a lot of time off. I can usually manage to get off like October 25th through like, let's say November 20th. So I get about a month off in the fall and, I'm off, I'm going to hunt, but I'm not going to go hunt my lease.
in the middle of a funnel and a prime spot where I've had daylight deer activity on camera, with a specific wind condition or weather condition on a bad wind or on a bad weather day, I'll just go hunt public ground or do something else. There's, there's a pretty good amount of opportunity for public ground around where my lease is. so, and I have a camper and stuff place I can stay on my lease. So I'll go stay there and I'll hunt the surrounding public ground if the weather's poor, but I'm just, I'm not.
Greg Strunak (15:46.991)
Where's your reset?
Kevin Creeley (15:49.056)
It's in Brunswick County, Virginia. So it's about, I would say like central Western Virginia. It's flat land, a lot of pine forest, pine like harvest farms and pine thickets, stuff like that. Ag land, a little bit of swamp mixed in and stuff like that. It's really, really, really flat.
Greg Strunak (16:08.862)
interesting.
Kevin Creeley (16:10.174)
Mm -hmm. Yeah. So back to the management thing. What so what kind of management do you implement on your family farm?
Greg Strunak (16:19.422)
well, it started, so, the property ended up being like super, it was mature hardwoods and you could see, you know, 300 yards through the woods and like, if pick the deer up, you can see it run away 300 yards through the woods. was just wide open. initially I started doing, some small like hinge cut areas where I just went in with a chainsaw and
and did a bunch of hinge cutting in like a one acre area that I wanted to do to bed in. And I had good results with that. I mean, I would, I'd go in in the spring and check the areas out and you you'd find beds in there. They would use it. And it was just a lot of work. And I was like, well, maybe I'll do a select. So I talked to my uncle and you know, we agreed, Hey, we're going to do a select cut on the whole farm.
So we went through and did a 16 inch select cut, means they cut most trees bigger than 16 inches, not all of them. But because I kind of explained to the forester that this wasn't a timber harvest for money. This was a timber harvest for money as well as your habitat. So I wanted stuff for the future. I didn't want to just clean cut everything and it'll be gone. So we did that select cut and that's really when
things changed because that turned completely turn the woods, the landscape 180 degrees. It went from a wide open forest where you could see 300 yards across it to now, you can get turned around in there. it's grown back up with thriars, regeneration from the tree tops and new trees growing in.
Kevin Creeley (18:07.201)
That's awesome.
Greg Strunak (18:17.444)
You know, I do go in with a chainsaw in the spring and try to keep certain areas I want open, opened up for deer travel.
Greg Strunak (18:29.658)
One thing I'll do is I'll get sprayer to my tractor. And, you know, to keep the roads open, the login roads open and certain areas I want the deer to use. I hope that sprayer up and I'll put glyphosate in there and I'll spray those roads to kill the briars back. Keep them open because I mean, those briars, they grow so quick and it's just, they can take over. So, yeah, just.
Kevin Creeley (18:54.4)
Mm
Greg Strunak (18:59.118)
After we did the select cut, now it's kind of just maintenance type of thing of keeping the places open that I want the deer to use and going through bedding areas and making sure that the deer can move through there good. Because I do think that an area can get too thick that a deer won't use it. You know, if they can't move through there and get out of there safely, they're not going to pin themselves in the corner.
where there's no exit route. So I like to try to make sure it's thick, but still thick enough that the deer want to use it.
Kevin Creeley (19:37.472)
Yeah, I can definitely relate in the way that, so like, like I was saying, a lot of the land that I lease is pine farms and stuff like that. And when they harvest this timber, you know, give it three years and it's the most dynamite bedding area you can ask for. Broom straw, four foot tall, short pines growing in at Greenbrier, like really thick stuff. And the deer have no problem moving through that. And it creates a lot of natural browse with the Greenbrier leaves and stuff. And it's fantastic.
Greg Strunak (20:05.387)
I never realized how much deer actually do browse on green briar.
Kevin Creeley (20:11.22)
dude, they tear greenbrier up, but we'll get to that. let me make them and make this point first. So with the, with the four, like let's say three to five year old clear cut after they'll, after they're going to harvest the timber. It's like at its prime, like where there's going to be deer bedding on the edges of that stuff. There's going to be family groups of does out in the middle of it. And I'll, I'll bump deer out of those things, walking through them in the winter after season. They're, bedding and they're good. Now give it three more years.
The pines start to mature. Greenbrier really starts to spread rapidly. Then you add in some invasive species that start to grow and the broom straw gets really thick. And then you get sumac and all kinds of other stuff that grows up in there. It gets so dense that like, I can't walk through it. A deer can't walk through it. Like it just becomes a jungle. You know what I mean? And so what do you do in terms of management? Like after you did this select cut, Greenbrier starts to grow up.
Greg Strunak (21:00.318)
100%.
Kevin Creeley (21:08.982)
You're starting to create these selective bedding areas. If they start getting quote unquote too thick, like to where it's like almost impenetrable. How do you manage that? I know you already talked a little bit about creating travel corridors with the tractor spraying glyphosate and I'm assuming that's like, okay, let me ask this. So are you creating pockets of bedding and then creating travel corridors in between these pockets or are you just creating large areas of bedding?
Greg Strunak (21:40.21)
There are certain areas that are, have always been bedding areas on this farm. And now with the select that there are even better bedding areas. So the bedding areas that I know are the deer using, that's where I go in with a hand saw or hand sprayer and I'll go through there and clean it up a little bit. And yeah, I put travel corridors out of that, out of those, out of those bedding areas where I try to.
manipulate them where I want them to go. And I do have areas that are, has gotten so thick, that what you're talking about that nothing can use it. And what I try to do is I just hammer through on a tractor if I can. You know, sometimes the terrain, it's, it's, it's, it's a little sketchy because, know, some, I try to do it when it's dry. So if I, if I know I have an area that's super overgrown, I'll wait.
like this time of year when it's super dry and I know my tractor's not going to slip on the hill or get stuck where I have good traction and I'll just grab a chainsaw and hammer right through it and try to open it up, spray it, push stuff out of way with a bucket if I can. I usually try to find a way to get the tractor in there because that just makes life easy if I can.
Kevin Creeley (23:04.63)
Gotcha. Man, that's really cool. I've, you know, I've planted, well, actually I'm planning my first food plot this year. I'm brand new to food plots. this is my first food plot this year. And I've, I've, like I said, again, that's the third time I've said it, but I hunt a lot of pine thickets and there's already so much betting opportunity in those pine thickets that really, if I were to manage the property, I wouldn't, that's not something I would be super concerned with creating with just the habitat that I hunt is creating bedding. Cause there's already so much opportunity.
Greg Strunak (23:29.65)
Right.
Kevin Creeley (23:32.226)
But I have gone in and created travel corridors in between bedding. And I've done it just with, mean, as simple as you get, like take a steel hedge trimmer and go in and carve lanes from one to another, spray it with glyphosate around the tail end of the growing season, slap a cell camera on it and absolutely deal with 100 % use it. But I've never had the pleasure of going in like you're talking about with a wide open, open canopy forest like that wide open.
You could see for $300 and then creating pockets of bedding. So I imagine you're going in and you're creating the bedding in an advantageous location for you to access. Is that correct?
Greg Strunak (24:14.122)
Yeah, I'll be like, I guess we select kind of the whole property. And I basically said, I want all of my woods to be bedding. I want as much bedding as I can possibly jam in here. Because the way our farm is laid out is we have a lot of ag and then it goes back into the woods. So I have the food, I need the bedding.
Kevin Creeley (24:28.706)
Okay.
Greg Strunak (24:43.186)
The bedding that those deer when gun season comes and they're getting bullets are flying. They got somewhere they can go camp out and survive. So, you know, we did this select cut on the whole property and my thought was I want to turn, I want as much bedding as I can. more bedding, the better. so as far as access goes, I typically hunt to fringes without property. I will hardly ever go into the woods.
because just because like I said, I wait for the right time. It's all about the timing for me. And I don't like the only time I'll go into a vetting area is if I have a really good cause that something's in there and it's like going to run. It's just, that's just how I just don't like going in there. I'd rather wait, be patient and hunt the fringes.
and not spook anything out of there that's in there. Because I just feel like the deer in Pennsylvania, they react to pressure quickly. So as soon as they know something's been in here, they're going to start being nocturnal. They're going to go to a different property where it's not getting bothered. So I just avoid hunter flinges, which I try to do.
Kevin Creeley (26:09.408)
Okay. I was gonna ask, I kind of lost my train of thought. completely lost my train of thought. had a really good question and it's gone. so, all right, I'll just ask this instead. So you have these travel corridors that you're creating in between bedding. Like you said, you're going in with a tractor and you're cutting lanes and you're spraying them with glyphosate. And that's not just for your access. That's going to also be for the deer's access.
Greg Strunak (26:22.686)
Sorry dude.
Kevin Creeley (26:37.13)
Are you seeing the deer using that frequently and are you seeing like sign pop up on those travel corridors, scrapes, rubs, stuff like that?
Greg Strunak (26:44.737)
100%. They, so I doubt typically like for instance, on the one red, I thought, I went through there and put a huge lane across the ridge. And then I wide it off to get off the backside of the ridge. And then I put a camera right at the Y and I mean, they run the hell out of it. They, they're going to take the path to least resistance and it's, so thick around that path. It's, it's, you know, five foot wide.
but it's so thick that the deer feel comfortable in it. It's not like, you know, and it's an easy path for them to walk and you know, you'll see rubs pop up on it. You'll see scrape pop up on them. So, I mean, they 100 % you know, use the travel cord.
Kevin Creeley (27:30.946)
Okay, I remember my question. So paint me a little bit of a picture of your property. You're saying that it's primarily ag, but there's some timber and it's 120 acres total. Is that right? Is that what you said?
Greg Strunak (27:43.39)
Yeah, yeah, it's 120 acres. It's probably about 60 acres ag and then the rest is woods slash. There's probably about.
and acres of like brush field country type of thing. Like overgrown, sure type stuff. So.
Kevin Creeley (28:02.058)
Okay. Okay. Do you see the deer using that often as a bedding area?
Greg Strunak (28:09.027)
Yeah, the does the does will be in there and and that's kind of where my My main food plots are is right off of that and that overgrown pasture It's just I Want them to bed there. It's actually overgrown. It's It's very it's grown in nice and I would think that the deer would use it more But I mean, yeah, I see I've seen a couple does bed down in there but never
Kevin Creeley (28:41.74)
Gotcha. I imagine they're probably using that as a betting source more during the early season. That's just an assumption. that close to correct?
Greg Strunak (28:49.286)
Yeah, yeah. And I mean the does with the food plot right there some of them mean like it the does will bed, you know right on right in there and You know, typically the bucks don't bed that close to it
Kevin Creeley (28:51.136)
Yeah, I would just assume so, that -
Kevin Creeley (29:04.994)
Yeah. Yeah. Even like, so I, like I said earlier in the show, I just planted, well, I'm actually planning this weekend, my first food plot ever. I've laid out all the prep work. I went in and it's like a little bit larger than a quarter acre. It's in the slam middle of a timber track. It's about a five -year -old clear cut and there's a high old log deck from where they logged it. So there's already somewhat of a clearing. I went in there with a bush hog and I widened it until it was about 0 .3 acres or so.
And then after that I sprayed it all down burned it all down with glyphosate Pretty it up made a nice shape to it. I did not make it a circle. It's like a It's almost like a figure eight really and then there's a large chunk of brush with a couple pines growing in it in the slam middle of that and Anyway, I say all that to say this I Wanted to put a ground blind on the south side of it so I could hunt early season I have a tripod on the north side of it for when the wind is predominantly coming out of the north
I have it on that end of the food plot for my most use for this food plot is going to be my wife hunting it during muzzleloader season, because that's her favorite time to hunt. for me, I saw it as a fun project and a cool spot for my wife to kill deer. So I set this up while I was like, I put a cell camera on it. I started getting deer on it immediately. They're already living in that area. And I was like, well, this would be a cool spot for me to kill a couple of does in early season with my bow. And then I'll stay out of it till November and let my wife on it with a muzzleloader.
Greg Strunak (30:09.267)
Right.
Kevin Creeley (30:29.292)
So I want to put a ground blind in it. And I trimmed out a spot for this ground blind and I used my hedge trimmers as a gas powered hedge trimmer. And I carved a trail to where I wanted the blind to be carved out a spot for the blind and created this kind of like little bit of an opening crammed the ground blind in between these two little, like four and a half, five foot tall short pine trees, crammed it in there, brushed it in real nice. heck, it kind of created a pocket of open broom straw behind it.
And I went in there two weeks later, sprayed the whole thing with glyphosate and there was five beds, like fresh as can be. mean, a couple of feet behind the ground blind in that little like area that I had cut, you know, like poop all in them, white hairs all in them. It smelled. was like, dude, they're literally living like these deer dang near laying in my ground blind, you know, it was kind of cool. So just cool to see like, you know, your little bit of impact can, can definitely,
Greg Strunak (31:08.904)
Yeah.
Greg Strunak (31:23.676)
Yeah.
Kevin Creeley (31:24.054)
change the habitat and impact the way that they live. And I just thought that was really interesting.
Greg Strunak (31:29.002)
Yeah, I mean you see the results pretty quick. Like you said you get cleared that out and you're already moving in. What kind of seed are you putting down? Or food plot?
Kevin Creeley (31:36.567)
Mm
Kevin Creeley (31:39.83)
So this is like I said, it's my first food plot. So I'm a novice. I'm doing oats and it's an oats and triticale mix. And I'm also doing clover. So yeah, that's what I'm putting down. Yeah, I think so. I've got a buddy of mine. He's a biologist in the state of Alabama and I turkey hunt down there every year. And usually I'll get down there a couple of days before the opener. And he's got a couple of special opportunity areas, which are like, if you're not familiar, it's like a
Greg Strunak (31:51.893)
Good variety then.
Kevin Creeley (32:08.406)
piece of public ground that you have to apply for basically. and it's like, it's like limited access and he does a ton of management right around Turkey season, trying to improve habitat for pulp brooding in those areas. And I went in and I'll usually tour these areas with him. He'll take me and he'll kind of show me what he's been doing management wise. And it's, it's always really, really neat. And, he had like four food plots that he had just recently planted and they were all a mixture of oats, triticale, triticale, however you pronounce it.
Greg Strunak (32:11.4)
Right.
Kevin Creeley (32:37.962)
and clover and they were just getting hammered. I'm talking like he has the encapsulation cages in the center of them and they'd be five foot tall. These are like acre and a half, large, much larger food plots than what I've planted. And there'll be five foot tall inside the cage and just looks like he took a weed whacker to the rest of it, like just hammered. And I was like, man, this is cool. So anyway, he talked me into planting that seed and that's what I'm putting down. So
Greg Strunak (32:56.39)
Right.
Greg Strunak (33:02.898)
Yeah, I it sounds like a good mixture, especially like in your situation, you're saying it's like a quarter acre in the middle of like a big timber. So there's not many opportunities for big agron. The deer are probably going to hammer that, you know, and with the clover, like clover takes and take a beating, it grows back pretty quick, you know, so we can take the browse pressure.
Kevin Creeley (33:17.175)
you
Kevin Creeley (33:26.272)
Yeah, and this this area particularly, I think it's going to get absolutely hammered. And here's why. So that specific property that I lease, I only am going to be leasing it for another two years. So that's why this food plot was small and kind of just an experiment. After that, he is going to turn the whole thing, unfortunately, into a solar farm. Womp Womp. But with that, he went in and they aerial sprayed the whole thing. They sprayed the entire thing and it killed
every bit of browse that was in there. The thing used to be littered in Greenbrier and there was sumac and some other stuff that came up in it and they sprayed the whole thing and it looked like a wasteland. Still held a ton of deer, believe it or not, just because of the bedding opportunity there, I guess. And maybe part in fact that we don't dog hunt as a group, the people that I lease the land with. And so all the dog pressure will just push the deer into that pocket of thick cover. But anyway, my point is with the resource of
browse becoming limited in that area, myself and about five other members of my lease have planted food plots throughout that timber track and just, you know, just add in some diversity and give the deer some different stuff to feed on within all that thick bedding cover.
Greg Strunak (34:40.85)
Yeah, it sounds like could definitely, you know, probably produce some results based on what you said.
Kevin Creeley (34:47.552)
Yeah, I've got a trail camera in there now and I mean, there's, there's deer living in that area year round. I mean, the food hasn't even come up yet and I've got a lot of deer in there. So I imagine once there's food on the ground, it's, only going to get better.
Greg Strunak (34:59.678)
Right, 100%.
Kevin Creeley (35:02.838)
So let me ask, you're implementing these bedding areas into this property. Like let's say started with the hinge cutting and then you went through and you did a select cut and you've increased the habitat for the deer to have more bedding opportunity. How long after going in and doing a cut like that, do you see them starting to use it?
Greg Strunak (35:25.904)
Usually within a year, mean, like I'll try to do all my hinge cutting like in green up, like green up in the spring, like April. And like I said, I usually don't go back into those areas till the next spring. And, you know, I'll walk around in there and usually you find beds in there. So I don't know how exactly soon after the cuts they go in there, but you know, from a year to year basis, they typically will find it.
Kevin Creeley (35:56.267)
Okay.
Greg Strunak (35:56.294)
And I mean, it only to me, it only gets better. Like the first year, always you get, you just have the tree top that you drop down and that's where you'll find the beds at. But then as time goes on, you start getting that undergrowth and it just gets thicker and it only gets better. And then, you you start seeing the deer just use it more and more and it just gets thicker and thicker. And, know, it's just better and better covered for them. Like Jerry, did.
The first area I hinge cut was probably about six years ago and it's, it's prime. It's, it's great. You know, now the tree tops are still there, but there's just growing through the tree tops is, you know, regeneration of small trees and briars and stuff. And I have a stand close by and I can, you know, see the deer bedding in there. So it's, it's cool to see the results.
Kevin Creeley (36:49.378)
That's awesome.
Yeah, that's awesome. And not to mention you're kind of killing two birds with one stone in the way that when you're cutting these trees and creating these bedding areas, you're letting more sunlight to the forest floor and then you're getting more natural browse growth and stuff like that. I imagine, right?
Greg Strunak (37:06.704)
Yeah, well, it seems like, my opinion, but I think, like, I think that you're usually nip off the tops. Of the stuff in the bare ground where I see most regeneration is in the tree tops. Because they can't get in there and. Animals can't get into the tree tops, so that's where the. The peak of the saplings and the tree regrowth is, I mean, there's some that come up, but you can, if you walk through there, you can see the deer.
Kevin Creeley (37:22.528)
Okay.
Greg Strunak (37:36.092)
or nipping the pops off of all the regeneration in there. And most of this stuff comes from tree pops, from the henskin.
Kevin Creeley (37:45.772)
Yeah, we were talking about Greenbrier a little bit ago. And like I said earlier, I'm hunting North Carolina public ground. That's going to be the start of my deer season this year. I'd never stepped foot on this piece of public. It, it backs up to a lease that my buddy has. And so I have a pretty unique access to the spot that I'm going to be spending most of my time. If a person coming from the public ground side were to want to hunt where I'm hunting, they would have to, get a boat in the river.
take the boat about four miles, park, and then walk a mile and a half. So I imagine I'll have the chunk to myself for the most part, the little like 800 acre chunk that butts up to his private ground. Anyhow, I was scouting that for the first time a few weeks ago and it's really swampy, thick, dense, extremely wet. And that's just kind of how the habitat is, flat as a pancake. And I was walking through there.
And there's an old log deck where they harvested timber a long time ago. Cause I mean, these pines and hardwoods and stuff that are in there really, really mature. So it must've been a long time ago that they did the harvest and the old log deck that it looks like they maintain it, kind of use it as like a management road. And there was a spot where it wide and where it wide, the road got really wide and, that allows a lot of sunlight in. And there was a ton of greenbrier growth right at the Y of this road.
And the green briar growth was probably at its peak. looked like about a waist high and the entire patch of that green briar looked like a weed eater had been taken to it. I mean, just like where you can see the deer eating the leaves off of the stem. Some of the stems of green briar didn't have a single leaf on them. It would just be a stem three and a half foot tall, every single leaf bitten off. And then they started eating the stem after they ran out of leaves. Like, I mean, it was just hammered. So I was like, man, this is cool. I actually dropped a pin on that spot and I think I'm going to spend an evening there.
Greg Strunak (39:26.172)
Bye.
Kevin Creeley (39:37.932)
Just hunting right on that road.
Greg Strunak (39:38.216)
Sounds like a right? Good pinch point, a little food source, you know?
Kevin Creeley (39:43.658)
Yeah, yeah, there's a little bit of diversity and there's literally water on both sides. So it is kind of like a, little bit of a pinch because I mean, unless the deer want to swim on either side, which they from what my buddy was telling me, they totally will swim that river. But you know, I think that area should funnel some movement there, at least in the early season when the pressure is low.
Greg Strunak (40:01.97)
Right.
Kevin Creeley (40:03.936)
So let me ask you this, what is your favorite time of year to hunt?
Greg Strunak (40:11.302)
It's a tough one. love. Like I said, I love my early season hunts on my family farm like an October cool front. Setting up on one of my food plots is, you know, sometimes my best hunts all year and I'll see. Multiple box of power does and it's just an awesome hunt. But also, you know.
A prime rut hunt in Ohio is hard to beat. So I enjoy the whole process. Yeah, I go out there for, I have a, me and my good friend, I have a deal set up with a farmer out there and we can hunt that, hunt his farm for a week every year. So we've been going out there for five or six years now. And I do love hunting out there.
Kevin Creeley (40:44.002)
You do a lot of hunting in Ohio.
Kevin Creeley (41:02.924)
right on.
Greg Strunak (41:08.138)
It's like I just love it all. can't. I love the early season hunts on my farm like I guess that October cold front in the right conditions like I have some of my best hunts of the year sitting out that early season like that. But. You know, it's hard to beat, you know in November run.
Kevin Creeley (41:29.698)
to argue with that. So you'll find that these deer hammer in these food plots that you plant on the fringes of the timber during the early season.
Greg Strunak (41:39.56)
yeah, I mean, well, the way some of my food plots are set up is I kind of set it up. There's like a big ravine and then the food plot is on top of the ravine and then it goes out to the egg. So, you know, it's between the bedding and the egg. So, you know, they come out pretty early, really. And then they work through that, my food plot right past me and then they go into the egg.
And, you know, like I said, I'm, it's, you know, I'll see on a good night, I can see, you know, three or four bucks come through that food plot. no problem. And, yeah, they, like I said, I keep the pressure off of it. I don't, if I do dohoney and I have a certain areas on the farm or I'll shoot a doe, like I won't shoot a doe out of my food plot just cause I don't want the disturbance on it. You know, I want.
Kevin Creeley (42:37.739)
Mm
Greg Strunak (42:38.686)
When I go in there to hunt, I want it to be undisturbed. don't run any cameras in my big fruit pots. I I want it to be as undisturbed as possible.
Kevin Creeley (42:51.808)
Okay. What do you have any like a lot of hardwood mass trees on your property? Do have any acorn crop holding trees in your property?
Greg Strunak (43:00.272)
Yeah, we have a decent amount of red oak, mostly red oak, a couple white oaks here and there, not a ton. And then it's a lot of maple trees, not even a crack -breast tree, but so it's a lot of like maple, red oaks, a white oaks, a couple walnut trees, a couple hickory trees. So it's kind of what's growing in the woods there.
Kevin Creeley (43:30.646)
What time of year on a good acorn crop year, what time of year do you usually see those trees start dropping?
Greg Strunak (43:37.016)
Be honest, I'm not a guy that kind of keeps track of that. don't pay attention to that too much. I probably should because I definitely think it affects the deer movement. But I typically don't pay attention to that.
Kevin Creeley (43:57.534)
Okay. Yeah. My next, that was going to be my next question was going to be if you've ever noticed that on a acorn crop year, if your food plots received less pressure in that early season timeframe.
Greg Strunak (44:07.986)
Well, I guess that I don't physically go in the woods and check when they're dropping, but you can tell that the deer will come out to the plots later. When I assume the acorns are dropping because they're spending more time in the woods than they're coming out a little later versus like. You know the first week of October where the acorns may not be dropping hard versus like mid October where they're starting to drop more. They come out later.
Kevin Creeley (44:18.412)
data.
Greg Strunak (44:37.796)
Like I said, I basically walk out and see when they're dropping just because I don't like trapping around in the woods much.
Kevin Creeley (44:46.038)
Gotcha. Yeah. So you were saying that, these travel corridors that you'll create with the tractor in between these select areas of bedding that you've created will start to receive during the late October timeframe, they'll start to receive some scrapes and some rubs and like some, some good, like pre -ruts on and stuff. that a time that you'll go in there and actually hunt those travel corridors?
Greg Strunak (45:08.07)
Yeah, yeah, typically I won't. I'll hunt those. I'll wait till like the last week of October. That's typically when I make that move. When the scrapes, when I feel like that's a shift from like early October is pretty much strictly. I hunt my food plots, you know, weather, weather permitting with the right wind. I my food plots up until mid October. Then I start shifting toward.
Kevin Creeley (45:15.158)
Yeah.
Greg Strunak (45:39.32)
More of a sign hunting the sign more scrapes stuff like that so yeah, typically like the last week of October is when I will get in there a little bit. I know the on scrape. And I sit over that.
Kevin Creeley (45:56.546)
Okay, gotcha. So what do you plant in your food plots usually?
Greg Strunak (46:02.792)
So I've experimented around with a lot of things over the years and I've kind of pinned it down to a few things that seem to work the best. I like having a wide variety. like, even if you only have a quarter acre plot, I would split it up. Cause my theory is I want to have a five star bucket out there. You know, I don't want just one thing. Cause what, you know.
I don't know, maybe they don't like it or maybe at certain times of the year they don't prefer it. So I use the blend. My favorite blend is probably white tail. White tail institutes pure attraction. It's oats and I think like a turn up blend. So I'll do and they really hammer those oats in early season, like the first two weeks of October, like they hammer that.
then yeah, right. And then the other mix I've used is Beats and Greens, I pure attraction, which is, you know, just sugar beets turnups, stuff like that. And I also use it's Big and Beastie by Bridget Forage. And that's like a turn up type of blend.
Kevin Creeley (47:01.1)
good to hear. But yeah, that's what I planned.
Kevin Creeley (47:25.505)
Okay.
Greg Strunak (47:30.738)
Like I said, I usually split my food plots up. I'll do like half pure attraction and then half whatever the other blend is. And then I also have a couple clover plots too, which are like eighth acre clover plots, very small.
Kevin Creeley (47:48.726)
Okay. I gotcha. Gotcha. All right, man. Well, I'll tell you what, we'll shift gears a little bit and talk about some of the archery stuff. I see on your social media, you do a lot of archery stuff. so we'll talk about that a little bit. What do you like to do? All right. Let's say starting in June, what are you doing in June archery wise?
Greg Strunak (48:09.054)
June I'm doing I do a lot of I shoot a lot. Well, not a lot, but I give it here of total or challenge It's a big archery event. Yeah, I Do those so that time of year? I'm doing a lot of like long -range shooting like you know, I like shooting out 80 90 yards hundred yards To get ready for that and I feel like that really Hones in your your form
Kevin Creeley (48:16.07)
Absolutely.
Kevin Creeley (48:37.153)
Mm
Greg Strunak (48:38.334)
so that time of year, I'm doing a lot of long range shooting. usually around August, start shifting over to a more getting ready for hunting season. Like for instance, if I do like a 3d shoot, I started aiming for kill shots at three targets, like, cause I don't know, like if you've noticed like on 3d shots, like where the 12 ring is, isn't necessarily where you would shoot a deer.
Kevin Creeley (49:08.106)
Agreed, yeah.
Greg Strunak (49:08.318)
you know, it's slightly off. So, you know, around August, I quit aiming for, you know, it's ball of range and start pretending like it's a deer, like where would I shoot it in a real life scenario, like change angles up a little bit and stuff like that. So, I also, this time of year, I start really getting in the habit of, so I shoot a single pin.
Kevin Creeley (49:20.224)
Hmm.
Greg Strunak (49:38.622)
spot hog site. So I like to get in the habit of ranging, adjusting and shooting. It's just a habit I try to pound in my head so I don't ever forget to do. Because that's, you know, if you're shooting a single pin, that's important to do. So what I do is I have like six arrows and I'll start like 30 yards, I'll range it, shoot, you know, take a couple steps back, range it, shoot.
Kevin Creeley (49:55.915)
I
Greg Strunak (50:06.654)
And, know, work my way all the way back to like 60 or 70 yards. And then, you know, I'll do that like three times and that just gets you in the habit of, you know, the arrange it, adjust shoot. And it just starts that habit. So, and then another thing is once going to hunting season, I always carry a target in my truck and I always try to shoot.
one arrow, one cold shot arrow before I go out in the woods just to, know, cause you don't get two shots in the woods. So I try to focus on making that one shot count. And you know, when you leave after I take that shot and you know, it's a good shot and then you go in the woods, you feel confident like, okay, I know my stuff's on, I'm shooting good, like let's go do it.
Kevin Creeley (50:49.78)
Heck yeah.
Kevin Creeley (51:01.179)
Yeah, I've got a couple of rituals that I'll shift into around second week, third week of August every year. And one for me is if time permits and my home schedule, family life and all that stuff permits, then every night that I'm home, I will go out in the yard around last light, whatever last light is, and I'll send three or four arrows. And I'll shoot until I can barely see the target. And once I'm at the point where I come to full draw,
And I literally can't see my pen. That's when I'll let down and head inside. But that and screwing on broadheads. I'll start screwing on broadheads around the third week of August. Make sure my broadheads are flying true and grouping my field points with the broadheads and making sure everything's in tune. Is that something you start to focus on towards the late summer?
Greg Strunak (51:49.555)
So I shoot the sever mechanical broadheads and I've shot them for three years now, maybe four and those things shoot identical with a field points. I do have a bad one that I screw on one of my practice arrows that I just throw in there and shoot. But typically I don't ever have to adjust my bow.
Kevin Creeley (51:53.302)
Mm
Kevin Creeley (52:12.257)
Okay.
Greg Strunak (52:17.576)
for my broadheads because those severs, you know, they shoot just like a field point. I've shot them in groups and you can't even tell the difference with them even at longer ranges. But I do have a practice one that I leave in my arrows probably during hunting season just to make myself feel good. But.
Kevin Creeley (52:38.166)
Yeah. What kind of setup are you shooting? Arrow weight, draw weight, stuff like that. What do you, and you already said you were shooting a mechanical broadhead, so you spilled the beans on that, but as far as your arrow weight, draw weight, stuff like that, what do you shoot?
Greg Strunak (52:49.798)
Yeah.
Greg Strunak (52:53.63)
So this year I'm shooting 70 pounds 31 inch draw length and my arrow is 477 grains and that's shooting about 285 feet per second which over the years I've gone lighter and lighter actually so I was shooting 545 grains
Kevin Creeley (53:10.519)
Right on.
Kevin Creeley (53:22.146)
I shot the exact same size last year, 545 grains.
Greg Strunak (53:26.398)
Yeah, I shot that for a few years and I had good results. I I shot a lot of deer with that arrow. And then I went to 510 grains. And again, no issues with it. I killed deer with that as well. And this year I'm down to 477. And the reason I changed was for this one reason. And it's for
arrow dropage like you know like if say you adjust your sight on an animal and you draw back and that animal takes five steps away from you or whatever like if you're a 540 grand arrow you're probably not going to make a lethal shot you know depending on how far away you're shooting versus the 477 that arrow isn't going to drop as much as that heavier arrow
Kevin Creeley (54:08.969)
Mm -hmm. Mm -hmm.
Greg Strunak (54:27.838)
So that's kind of why I'm shooting a lighter setup. And I think it's about finding that balance of weight and speed. mean, you still want that arrow to hit hard and you want it to go fast. But I think you can go too far to the extreme on both sides. I think you kind of just have to mess around and find your happy medium for speed and weight.
Kevin Creeley (54:51.476)
I I see you're wearing a Hoyt hat, so I assume you're shooting a Hoyt.
Greg Strunak (54:57.244)
Yeah, I just switched back to Hoyt. I had a Matthews V3 bow. I've shot that the last four years and it was honestly a great bow. I can't even complain about the dot thing. I love that bow. But I was looking to switch it up a little bit and I did a bunch of shooting with different brands this year and Hoyt ended up feeling the best and shooting the best and that's...
Kevin Creeley (55:05.292)
Okay.
Greg Strunak (55:26.93)
and what I ended up going with.
Kevin Creeley (55:27.326)
Mm -hmm. Yeah, that's really all that matters man is how it feels, you know, I I shot a Hoyt for the last three years I love that bow before that I shot a bear And then I switched to the Hoyt shot the Hoyt for three years killed a pile of deer with the Hoyt didn't have a single problem with it Hoyt's actually right over here off over my left shoulder hanging on the wall because I blew it up this year, but What's that
Greg Strunak (55:48.765)
happen.
How did that happen?
Kevin Creeley (55:53.05)
man. just pulled a complete bonehead move and didn't put an arrow in it. I, yeah, it was rough. Never done that before. I don't, you know, we all, we all make silly mistakes, I guess, but I just, I was actually filming some content and, had to
Greg Strunak (55:59.904)
That hurts. That hurts.
Greg Strunak (56:06.332)
Right, it happens, it happens.
Kevin Creeley (56:13.1)
camera set up and what have you. you know, just drew the bow back and that's the worst part about it, man, is I have it on film. I clicked in and drew the bow back. Didn't have a thing was wrong. Settled into my anchor, sunk the pin on the bullseye and then terrible sound, terrible sound and immediately knew, man, something ain't right.
Greg Strunak (56:31.56)
Yeah.
That's interesting. Do you feel like whenever you're filming yourself, gives you that like, to me, it feels like it's that pressure like when you're about to shoot a deer, it's not, you're not just shooting your bow. It's like you're under pressure. Like you have to make a good shot because you're filming yourself. It kind of gives you like, kind of gives me that feeling like I'm drawn back on an animal. That pressure, you know what I mean? the intensity of it. Do ever feel that?
Kevin Creeley (57:01.686)
absolutely. It definitely gets to me in front of the camera. mean, so much that I didn't put an arrow in my bow. So yeah. well besides that, what's even, what's even rougher for me personally is shooting in front of people, groups of people. And I'm sure you can relate to that going to the tack events, you know, shooting, shooting with people, It. Yeah, we had a, from
Greg Strunak (57:16.7)
Yeah, it's definitely all eyes are looking on you and it's pressure. But I feel like it's good. feel like the more you do it, the more comfortable you can get. And then when that big buck comes in, you can handle that pressure better and make a good shot.
Kevin Creeley (57:33.548)
Yeah, that's something that for me, like, we were talking about, like different rituals will, will build into our summer routines. And that's something that every summer I've tried to do for the last, at least the last two years is, shooting with groups of people, whether it's an event, like some form of archery event, 3d event, whatever, or even just here in the backyard, three of my buddies. And we'll have a little, you know, fun and games, competition, stuff like that. Actually, we just had a big comp. Well, I say big, it wasn't big, but it was big for me.
Competition at my house with a bunch of my friends. It was super fun. had 15 of us over here and we put 10 ring targets up and my wife even bought little Amazon trophies for the winners and stuff. And had a bracket system and it was super fun, dude. But even something is like, dude, it was a blast, but even something is like social and silly is that like I get up and it's my turn to bat, you know, and I come to full draw and I'm like, man, why is my heart beating a little faster? You know what I mean?
Greg Strunak (58:12.763)
Thanks
I would be...
Kevin Creeley (58:29.036)
Cause you got the competition of like all your buddies are watching. You're, you're going neck to neck.
Greg Strunak (58:33.011)
Yeah, you know.
for him.
Kevin Creeley (58:36.438)
Yeah, man, you gotta be, you gotta win. You gotta be the alpha, you know, man, it's a good time, but now that's awesome, man. tell you what, dude, we're about at an hour here. So I want to be respectful of your time. You know, I don't want to, I don't want to keep you all leaving in long, but, I appreciate you hopping on here, dude. Why don't you for the listeners, tell them where they can find you social media, YouTube, wherever you're at. And so they can check your, some of your archery stuff out.
Greg Strunak (59:00.746)
Sure, you can follow me. I'm on Instagram. It's bucks unlimited EA with underscore So it's box unlimited or bucks underscore unlimited underscore PA That's what I do most my content
Kevin Creeley (59:13.228)
Cool, right on.
Sweet dude. I'll tell you what, man, I really appreciate your time on here and I hope you kill a big one this season. Yes, sir.
Greg Strunak (59:20.065)
Yeah, it was a good talk. Hey you too.
Kevin Creeley (59:24.416)
Alright buddy, talk to you soon.
Greg Strunak (59:26.31)
Yep, we'll do.
